User talk:Wavy G

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Contents 1 alt.tv.real-world 2 Andy Griffith Show pictures 3 Invitation 4 LUE and Internet phenomenon 5 A-Team 6 The Fool 7 Barnstar 8 Beastie 9 Thanks 10 Gillette Mach3 11 Who came up with that? (Brady Bunch) 12 Mikey Teutil 13 Internet Memes 14 Internet Meme 15 Thanks 16 Thanks for the Laugh 17 Uncle Buck article 18 ZOOM 19 regarding Rene Clausen 20 The A-Team characters 21 Thedrunkendialer.com 22 RE: "Web sites"/"websites" 23 Geopolitics of English-Speaking Europe 24 Hallowieners 25 About this 26 Domination of Fred G. Sanford article 27 The Addams Family

[edit] alt.tv.real-world

I didn't delete it, I listed it for AfD. Talk to User:Lucky 6.9, he's the one who deleted it. User:Zoe|^(talk) 04:52, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I did. We get bombarded by articles of this type. Simply put, this is not a depository for information on every Usenet group on the internet. It is of little or no interest to anyone outside your group and is a poor use of this site's resources. Am I discriminating? I most certainly am. So are the folks who run this site. Allowing articles like this would set a horrendous precident. If you please, kindly read WP:NOT to learn more about how to contribute. This is a general, worldwide reference work. Your contributions should be of interest to a worldwide audience. I am glad to help you if you wish, but not if you flame my talk page. - Lucky 6.9 05:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

(Don't know if this is getting to you, as I am still new to this)

No intentions on flaming you, I just felt it was unfair to delete my article. I understand you get bombarded with silly articles about web forums and discussion boards, which are like vanity articles on someone's little "hole in the corner of the web." However, I really felt alt.tv.real-world is more noteworthy (along the lines of the infamy of the alt.fan.karl-malden.nose group, [which has a Wikipedia entry, mind you] as we associate, but are not affiliated with them) due to its history and widespread fanbase. Wikipedia has several articles on Usenet, flamewars, and trolls, etc, and I thought a few articles (like mine) that actually provide examples would help fill in those topics a little better. Wavy G 06:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi...I just got word on my talk page. Thanks for being polite. I truly appreciate that. I've had some second thoughts about deleting your article. In the interest of fairness, I'll gladly restore the article and the discussion as to whether or not it should stay. - Lucky 6.9 06:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

OK, it's back on. My suggestion: Leave the deletion notice on, but provide proof of your claims by adding more to the article. Hit rankings, size of membership, that sort of thing. There's no establishment whatsoever regarding notability in the article's current state. If it's as large as you say, it should be worth an article. Sorry for the inconvenience. - Lucky 6.9 06:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andy Griffith Show pictures

Thanks for noticing and for starting all those character pages. Give me time and I will do what I can. Make yourself familiar with Wiki "Fair Use" rules and you can probably find some on your own. Ee60640 08:53, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Helen Crump and The Darlings now have pictures. Ee60640 10:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

• Both of those pics look good. I think they meet the standards of Wiki for what they are in terms of proper use. How about we both keep looking around for similar ones with better resolution. Thanks. Ee60640 08:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation

--Fasten 12:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LUE and Internet phenomenon

• It's a subforum of GameFAQs; so, it's covered by GameFAQs. Danny Lilithborne 04:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't think it's necessary to readd it since, as I said, it's covered by GameFAQs. So you did the right thing by deleting it. Just letting you know what it is. ;) Danny Lilithborne 04:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A-Team

I didn't realise "tyres" had an alternative spelling, so I'm sorry for changing it! I think there is quite a strong fanbase of "cult TV" over in GB. Mr T is very popular on t-shirts. Laters! Slumgum | yap | stalk | 22:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your amusing reply. Yes, everyone (well, nearly) says "cheers", although I prefer the phrase "cheers ears!". Toodle pip old bean, etc.
Slumgum | yap | stalk | 00:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they did actually go to a Beverly Hills medium on the show to contact George Peppard. They gave her a Hannibal action figure to use to contact his spirit. The show was light-hearted and really good fun.
Slumgum | yap | stalk | 00:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Fool

My apologies. I meant well. Honest! Thefool 07:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		Thanks for helping with the team effort to improve List of Andy Griffith Show episodes. Fife Club 02:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For tirelessly ripping out vanity entries and non-phenomena from Internet phenomenon, from one you didn't rip out. Jay Maynard 00:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Rory096 01:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beastie

Hello .. Yes I regret that whole beast thing. so clearly a troll in retrospect .. BabuBhatt 02:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for cleaning up my edits to the Infamous Moments article. I make lots of typos :-( Psycho Master (Karwynn) 14:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gillette Mach3

Hi, Wavy G! I know that it is not so evident, but Gillette Mach3 has got a reference to Saturday Night Live in the section "Parodies". This is why I included it into the "see also" of Saturday Night Live. --Daĉjo^почта 16:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

• Actually I'm Italian and I've never seen SNL, so maybe that link should be omitted. Anyway, what does "good morrow" mean? --Daĉjo^почта 06:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who came up with that? (Brady Bunch)

I mistakenly thought it was Davis for some reason. Thanks for correcting it! WhisperToMe 03:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I created the article. And it had "Allan Davis" in when it was first created. WhisperToMe 03:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know a whole lot about the Bradies either, but I can look for a character site with detailed information. I created the page so that "Jan Brady" will have somewhere decent to redirect to. WhisperToMe 03:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mikey Teutil

I was just at the OCC webpage.

It's a blatant copyvio. The content came directly from the OCC page. Please don't remove copyvio tags. CQJ 06:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Check the talk page. Specifically, it's the latter part of the article, taken directly from this page. CQJ 06:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Internet Memes

While "I'M IN UR" can probably go into the Image Macro section I didn't spot before, unilaterally removing the Jack Bauer meme on the grounds that it's "certainly not as big as Chuck Norris and others" is a little foolhardy. The "size" of the Chuck Norris variant is perhaps indisputable - as it has been featured on television, being read by Norris himself - and is probably the original, but the Bauer variety is at the very least directly comparable to the Mr. T and Vin Diesel ones, which manage un-reverted citations. In fact, if I were to unilaterally delete one of the four it would be the Vin Diesel one as I can't remember a single "Vin Diesel fact" off the top of my head, but can recall at least a few Chuck Norris, Mr. T and Jack Bauer "facts" without any trouble at all - meaning that Vin Diesel is "certainly not as big as Chuck Norris and others".

Though I wouldn't take it upon myself to just up and delete one because I hadn't heard of it - especially as Wikipedia tends to be a source of learning, even if it is just learning about facile internet memes...

Famine 16:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Edit: No problems

Famine 17:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Double-edit: I've just noticed that "Jack Bauer facts" (along with Mr. T and Vin Diesel "facts") are actually directly referred to on the Chuck Norris Facts page of Wikipedia!

Famine 17:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Internet Meme

Where was the EBaum controversy and troll attacks on eBaum's forums? The velociraptor 02:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean where is it listed on the article? I don't know anything about this. Wavy G 02:23, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I resad your comments on the Internet Meme history page, you said they were either already on the page or not that meme-ish. The velociraptor 02:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi - thanks for fixing my errant signature. Not quite sure how that happened. Keep up the good work. --Hamiltonian 04:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Internet phenonmenon edits - It's difficult to come to a definition of an "internet phenomenon" (as you know). I see an internet phenomenon as some that spreads through the internet quickly, gaining widespread attention. Margolis doesn't really fit into this criteria because while she did become famous through the internet, her image only really stayed "in one place", she did a lot of work off of the internet, her big claim to fame was overtaken years ago by someone else. If the definition of an internet phenomenon allows something like Margolis (who I agree is popular, should be on wikipedia, etc.) and, say, the Star Wars Kid (who I personally think fits the idea of an internet phenomenon more closely) to be on the same page, the definition of an internet phenomenon is virtually useless.

I see. An Internet phenomenon is something that is "spread" across the Internet. I was thinking "became famous on the Internet" (which, I could only assume, is what everyone who throws something onto the list must be thinking). Okay, it makes sense now. I just wanted to be on the same page, here.

Perhaps a solution could be to split the page into various subpages, with slightly varying definitions.

Say (the titles aren't perfect):

1. List of internet memes - a previous title of the article, would include really popular stuff that pops up on YouTube, etc. (OK Go dance, Star Wars Kid) Stuff that might appear on WebJunk 20, etc. (i.e. viral videos). This page would likely need to be split into several - for say, video/animation/audio, and "other" (text, etc., like Chuck Norris)
2. List of internet celebrities - would include Margolis and people who became famous because of the internet (a broader definition of people than might be included on the page right now). Henry Earl, Star Wars kid could be here too, etc.

The big problem is definition. I've been trying to get people to come to some consensus for over a year (it feels that long anyhow), but hardly anyone seems to be interested. Cheers. --Hamiltonian 05:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it must be that everyone has their own idea of what fits the definition, and no one wants to worry about the details. Maybe if the opening paragraph clarified the definition (but like you said, it need to come to a consensus), it might deter some of the people from adding non-notable entries, or non-phemonena. Wavy G 05:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the Laugh

Comparing Dish Network Channel Grid to the presidents at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dish Network Channel Grid. I needed a good laugh tonight. (And you even made a valid point!)EnsRedShirt 03:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncle Buck article

To tell the truth, in this article, Uncle Buck was the only film where Jean Louisa Kelly was a child actress. In this article, you will need to add the headline about the common mistakes and say that some contents in the film were cut when the film was on television. --PJ Pete

All users will need to discuss changes in the article of the film, Uncle Buck. --PJ Pete

[edit] ZOOM

Thanks for deleting the strong accent comment on the ZOOM article. I had never noticed it, and would have deleted it if I had. The comment had been there since SEPTEMBER 7!!!! SupaStarGirl 14:09, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] regarding Rene Clausen

I have recently read your comments in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rene Clausen area. Your statements saying that I did not verify Dr. Clausen's notability is false. I specifically left refernces that displayed his importance, contributions, and life in the world of modern choral arts. Did you look at them? Let me assure that he is most worthy to have his own article on wikipedia. If you disagree with my actions, then please tell me what I am doing wrong. I strongly wish for my article to remain on this site, and not be deleted! (my apologies for the "special notes")

Thank You, User:wittj

[edit] The A-Team characters

Good Job creating separate articles for Hannibal, Murdock and Faceman. And just let you know I took the liberty of creating Category:The A-Team characters, so all four articles in cluding BA's can be found there. I also created Category:The A-Team, for all the articles and categories related to The A-Team. Quasyboy 2:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		For four long-overdue articles. —freak(talk) 07:39, Oct. 30, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thedrunkendialer.com

I am wondering of this site could be considered an internet phenomena or not. I know it is rather popular and extremely humorous. It features a guy who holds a weekly contest offering $100 via PayPal to the individual who leaves him he best Drunk dialing message on his voicemail.

I did not add this site to this article yet for fear that people would think I am self-promoting. I have no affiliation with the site and can’t find any direct marketing used to purchase products. I just think it is very funny and well known around my area.

I look forward to some objective input before I add, or do not add this site to the list. Take a look for yourself, you be the judge…

• Wikipedia is not an advertising service. Promotional articles about yourself, your friends, your company or products; or articles written as part of a marketing or promotional campaign, may be deleted in accordance with our deletion policies. For more information, see Wikipedia:Spam. (Would this apply?)

• http://www.spamlinkremoved

Thanks, 69.167.102.181

[edit] RE: "Web sites"/"websites"

"Hi, I'm not going to argue with you because it is a pointless topic, but I just thought I would point you to the American Heritage Dictionary Fourth Ed [1]. As you can see, "Web site" is merely an accepted variant of the correct word, "website." No where does it state that this is the proper spelling of the term. The usage note points out the transition from the original "Web site" to "Website" and finally to "website," the accepted spelling of the word. I WIN!!!1!1!! Love, Wavy G 22:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)"

" 'World Wide Web' is a name that needs to be capitalized, like 'Internet.' It is made up of Web pages and Web sites (or, less formally, Websites)."

As the article states:

". . . the Associated Press Stylebook, Reuters, Microsoft, academia, and dictionaries such as Oxford and Merriam-Webster use the two-word, capitalised spelling 'Web site'. This is because 'Web' is not a general term but a shortened form of 'World Wide Web'."

In the discussion of the article:

"The use of 'website' by 'newspapers and other media' is utterly incorrect. Most newspapers and other media use 'Web site'. AP Style, as well as several other authorities, forbid "website". The only mainstream media that uses "website" that comes to mind immediately is WIRED Magazine, which made the controversial change relatively recently."

Also,

"The internationally recognized official Web standards are established and published by the World Wide Web Consortium or W3C and can be found at the site [www.w3.org]. It must be acknowledged that the standard (i.e correct) is always a capitalized W whenever referring to the World Wide Web in any form, including: Web, Web site, Web page, Web server, etc."

Also,

"6. Somehow global Web standards don't apply to this Wikipedia Web site, or the work of the W3C doesn't apply to what we are doing here.

[Answer]: False. W3C standards are intended for the entire WWW and are globally acknowledged and applied to most sites both public and private. Wikipedia is a public site on the WWW and functions because of W3C standards and protocols (among others). And yes Wikipedia does have published standards, if not a set style manual.

7. Somehow common malpractice in public forums represents justification for further neglect, abuse, or malpractice, particularly abandoning widely accepted standards.

[Answer]: False. All over the Web and in interpersonal communications, there are accelrating occurences of individuals failing to use capitalization, punctuation, or even automated spell-checking. that doesn't make it tolerable acceptable beneficial admirable or even comprehensible does it do you intend to emulate that common practice as well."

So simply because one dictionary (AHD) states that Web site is an acceptable variant of website doesn't necessarily mean that should dictate how it's spelt on the Wikipedia article. ~ UBeR 23:01, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geopolitics of English-Speaking Europe

I too enjoyed a good, hardy laugh when I came across your response to living in "2 places at the same time" on User talk:72.209.25.80. I thank you for that. And please believe me when I say that all Americans are not that stupid. Wavy G 03:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that has to be an all time vandalism classic . I think I'm going to frame it one my user page. Did you also spot their attempt to create an new userbox? [1]. You can rest assured that I have met some very intelligent Americans in my time and that some youtube kids aren't in any danger of denting the US's reputation. For further giggles I heartily recommend watching their "notable film company"'s latest releases: [2]-- IslaySolomon | talk 04:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hallowieners

It was deleted - that was a repost. I've deleted it again, but if you see it reappear let me know and I'll salt it. Cheers, Yomangani^talk 00:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About this

Actually, the new MW software automatically summarizes a page blank when no other edit summary is used. 68.39.174.238 02:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

It's OK, I've seen a LOAD of people and several administrators completely miss that. You're in good company ;D! 68.39.174.238 02:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Domination of Fred G. Sanford article

I see that you have been the main contributor to that article, and, unfortunately, have opposed changes other editors make. The word choice "irascible curmudgeon" is not only cacophonic, wordy and not understandable. I mean, how many people know what that means, "curmudgeon?" Think about it...and plus that, other editors routinely critique work, all articles should have imput from others. 131.247.220.9 23:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Ooooh-kay. Uhh, first of all, I didn't write that particular piece of prose you're speaking of, however, I felt the change from "irascible" to "irritable" was an unnecessary, as it means the same thing. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I felt the article was fine the way it was. And secondly, "curmudgeon" is not a "weasel word." It is a perfect description of the character. We're talking about a fictional character here, not a real person, and furthermore, Fred Sanford, like it or not, is in fact a "curmudgeon." I'm sorry if your vocabulary is not up to par, but making unnecessary changes to perfectly good articles should not be the way to deal with it. Good day. Wavy G 23:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

"Irascible curmudgeon" is poor writing. 131.247.220.9 02:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I used to edit here on a different name. I quit once before, I tried to give being here a second chance - but there is no hope.

I threw in the towel! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.247.220.9 (talk • contribs) 08:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

Good for you! I'm glad to hear you've moved on to better things. Now, like I asked you on your talk page, please stop contacting me. Wavy G 08:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Addams Family

I've reverted your recent reversion of The Addams Family. Please see Talk:The Addams Family. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jordan Brown (talk • contribs) 18:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC).