Talk:Waverly Hills Sanatorium
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An interesting article. Any chance of some more images? -- Longhair 10:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- I have a lot of images from 2003 at my web-site, http://www.abandonedonline.com under Hospitals > Waverly Hills Seicer 04:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Because you have copyrighted images, you'll need to let us know what rights we can publish them under. There are some great photos there, though! --Mike Straw 10:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] It just doesn't add up...
"Estimates vary wildly of how many died at Waverly, though some say that it was around 63,000. However, there is no documentation to prove that. There is, however, documentation to prove that the worst year for death at Waverly was 152 people."
Does this make sense to anyone? The hospital had fewer then 70 combined years during which it was opened. If the most that died in a year was 152 (which seems quite low, as it was a TB hospital), then how can we have 63,000 deaths? Michael 04:47, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- ((end year - start year)+ two incase in opend on jan 1 and close on dec 30) * max deaths = max deaths
- ((1961-1910)+2)*152= 8056
- Of course if there was heavy under reporting then I would say the 152 number is just as much in question and should have documentation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 147.21.16.3 (talk • contribs) 14:24, 16 June, 2006 (UTC).
- Then, this should be cited, because it simply doesn't make sense. Michael 21:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
To further confuse this, I recall from multiple sources that one patient an hour died at the height of the epidemic. 152 certainly doesn't seem feasible when you add that statistic to the equation!
- Exactly...With that said, it makes no sense. Michael 04:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- The documentary that was made, though, was horribly inaccurate, so... Michael 04:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- The number of around 63,000 is accurate. The owners have the documentation to prove it. Also, for a while it was taking people from all over. Eventually so many people were coming, that you had to be a member of Jefferson County, KY to be admitted. This number is not so farfetched if you throw out the "152", which I do not personally know the origin of. Indeed the main purpose of the "death tunnel" was to keep the line of hearses away. So many people were dying, several an hour, that they didn't want the patients to look out the window and see all the bodies. The body chute took them to the bottom of the hill to be carried away. Siri 00:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] References?
I agree with the earlier comments, and would also say that there is a lot of "people saw," "people say," etc. with no footnotes, no citations at all. (Yes, that 60000 number seemed ridiculous to me, too.) Where do all these reports come in from? This seems like a load of hearsay to me NCartmell 21:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- References are at the bottom under "References". I added to what was pretty much already here, and I just reworded it and clean it up a bit. Some of this info was on the Ghost Hunters investigation episode and the documentary Spooked - and it even says Spooked may not be credible, but that was where the info came from. In regards to the claim of POV violation, All I said the place has potential for paranormal activity since supposedly 60000+ people died there. How is that a POV violation? The 60000 dead is the claim of the current owners and workers at the site, and wouldn't it make sense that if THAT many people died in one place it would be of interest to paranormal investigators? Cyberia23 23:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I am doing general cleanup to the article, adding in-text references using the Footnotes citation. I revised the Room 502 subsection by changing all "facts" to assumptions and adding an in-text citation. I will continue to go through as time permits and correct other glaring inaccuracies. Seicer 01:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I have corrected "Specific ghosts" and "The Death Tunnel" sections to conform with the neutrality standards and present a balanced and factual standpoint. Other corrections will be done soon. Seicer 16:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Corrected the remainder of the ghost section to a more neutral stance and removed neutral dispute boxes. Since none of these claims have been validated nor proven in a scientific field, and since the movie/documentary film makers have poor credibility, the article should state all paranormal activity as unresolved and unvalidated - not necessairly false/lie. Seicer 04:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] There seems to be a lot missing.
There's a lot missing in the wiki about the history of the building. For example, Charles Severs owned the property previous to Alberhasky owning it. Also that at the time of construction of the current main hospital building it was the most advanced hospital of it's kind, and many people flocked to it for that reason. Also there is no mention of the procedures, and therapies that patients were given (not intended to bring up the gruseome experiments, but to list such things as the solarium, the electro-shock therapy)
Also I think it needs to be mentioned about the Negro hospital, which was seperate from the main hospital building.
Further, there is no mention that the current owners, the Mattingly's, have sold off some of the main hospital grounds, including the negro hospital for a subdivision development. Which further resulted in the destruction of the remains of the negro hospital building, and one of the original main roads to the hospital.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.130.167.7 (talk • contribs) 22:19, 25 June, 2006 (UTC).
- The Mattingly's never owned that land, so I have heard from their workers, it was all split up in the 70s or earlier, before they owned it. Indeed the Negro hospital was where they are building subdivisions. A lot is missing in the article. Waverly also had one of the first if not the first "tanning beds" in the world. It was indeed the most advanced hospital, and a beautiful hospital. The procedures were top of the line, even though they were gruesome and not many survived some of the more severe ones. I have been to Waverly on several occasions and have conversed with the owners and the workers and have had the opportunity to work at the halloween "haunted house", so please message me with specific questions and I will try to contribute more. Siri 00:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] In-Text Links
So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that links to WP articles in the text should only be linked once, at the first mention. What I'm specifically thinking about are the two references to electronic voice production, both of which are linked. Shouldn't only the first reference be linked? --Natalie 03:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Generally, that's true. However, in long articles, many editors tend to apply this to each section rather than the article as a whole. — Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 21:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ridiculous
This article is ridiculous! Full of talk of ghosts and paranormal garbage. A TV show "made contact with the nurse"?! No they didn't! It was staged, that sort of thing has been proved time and time again.
And how can a hospital for a few hundred people result in 1 death an hour?!
Garbage
I wouldn't call it garbage simply because a tv show thought it could boost ratings by staging a paranormal meeting. The hospital was originally too small to accomodate the amount of patients that were being brought in. It was later remodeled and made bigger. At the time of avent of Waverly Hills Hospital, TB, or "The White Plague" was overtaking the countryside at an alarming rate. There was no cure, all they could do for treatment was perform a surgical procedure in which most of the ribs, muscles and skin were taken out to allow the lungs contact with fresh air and help them breathe. There were more deaths than survivors of the surgery. No one said that one person died an hour as a result of the TB. Though TB was the killer that claimed most of the victims, surgery among other things killed them as well.
[edit] Discrepancy
On the Waverly Hills Sanatorium article, it says that it was featured in the MTV show 'Fear', but on the MTV Fear article, it says that this episode took place in British Columbia, Canada. Anybody know which is right?
