Talk:Wave equation
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Removed:
The basic equation is:
- v = fλ
- I'm not sure it should be removed. Although "perfectly correct", it's the same as listing the differential-only forms of Newtonian mechanics -- correct, but not useful.
- Perhaps you (or I) should add it back in a section describing specific solutions, such a standing wave patters, or in this case, singletons.
Fair enough. as it stood it was confusing and seemed unrealed to the differential equation this article is about -- Tarquin 13:11 Jan 6, 2003 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the right way to suggest this,(bit of a beginner with wikipedia) -- surly the above formula should be in the article as it's the basic formula and very widely used, i was looking for it when i searched "wave equation". Sorry again if this is the wrong way of suggesting.
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[edit] Elastic eqn
I added the elastic eqn, but network difficulties meant I wasn't logged in.Gwimpey 05:26, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] scalar or vector?
the function in search, u, is scalar or vector-valued? i.e. when is it what?
[edit] Culture
I've heard that Laplace was riding his horse next to a river when something big fell in the water. The waves propagated to the riverbanks and down the river. Laplace noticed that there was a wave that persisted, never dying out as long as he followed it. It is said that this inspired him to study waves mathematically. Does anyone else know about this? --Orthografer 16:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- What he saw is I think a soliton. I heard something similar a while ago. I guess it belongs to the same category of stories as Newton's apple. Might be true. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 19:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
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- It wasn't Laplace, it was a fellow called Russell; it wasn't an object, it was a barge being towed by mules which suddenly stopped. He saw the water gather up at the prow of the boat, and detach itself into a single solitary wave, which then proceeded quite repidly down the canal. He chased the soliton on horseback for
172 miles (!). Its all written up in an account, presented to some or another scientific society; its mentioned in many books. The math is given by the KdV equation. linas 18:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)- Why, WP has an article on it: John Scott Russell; see also the external link therein. linas 19:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you! Orthografer 20:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Why, WP has an article on it: John Scott Russell; see also the external link therein. linas 19:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- It wasn't Laplace, it was a fellow called Russell; it wasn't an object, it was a barge being towed by mules which suddenly stopped. He saw the water gather up at the prow of the boat, and detach itself into a single solitary wave, which then proceeded quite repidly down the canal. He chased the soliton on horseback for
I intend to add material on the 3-D case, with emphasis on domain of dependence, Huygens' principle, etc. The 2-D case can then be teated by method of descent. Donludwig 18:03, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Delta, Nabla and Notation
Can someone modify this article to explain what the heck Δ stands for, in that first equation? linas 18:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Added identification of Δ in the equation, along with the alternative form, as the Laplacian and an added appropriate link. --Nkrupans 16:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
A broader question of notation, does anyone else find the more used/familiar than the Δ for the Laplacian operator? Looking through the physics articles on Wikipedia, the seems dominant. I mention this in the discussion page for the Laplacian and may open up a new topic there about the notation. Let me know what you think. --Nkrupans 16:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- My two cents: my personal preference is the form, though I speak only for myself. For me, it's simply easier to remember exactly what it is that way ( that is suggests to some extent ). Anyway, that's my opinion. DAG 08:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Added Section on In-homogenous W.E. in 1D
I added a section on how to get a solution to an in-homogenous wave equation initial value problem. In one dimension. It's better than none I suppose... :) DAG 10:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- I did a small copyedit and noticed you called the initial condition f the source function. I believe the correct interpretation is that the inhomogeneous term s is the source function. Someone should correct me if I'm wrong and list a source within this section, perhaps Boyce and DiPrima's book if it has the relevant material. Orthografer 20:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
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- No, no, you're completely right, that was my mistake. I initially started by using f as the source function, but to remain consistent with the rest of the article, I wanted to use the same symbols for the initial conditions, so then I had to change f. Apparently I wasn't completely thorough... :/ Oops. DAG 21:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)