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[edit] Welcome!

Hello Wai Hong, and Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some good places to get you started!

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FireFox  T C E 12:51, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm not disputing that the university campus is integral to Shepparton's society, and indeed, it really does need some mention in that article. I reverted your edit for two reasons - firstly, because it was largely incomprehensible, and really needed to be rewritten from scratch if it was to be kept, and secondly, because that level of detail would be much more suited to an article about the university campus. Perhaps you'd be interested in writing University of Melbourne, Dookie campus? In any case, however, please be more careful with your use of grammar and punctuation. Ambi 15:01, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Please read what I said before. I am not disputing that the university is relevant to Shepparton and needs to be mentioned in the article in some form, but rather that the content you added was incomprehensible and way too detailed compared to the size of the article (if your edit had remained, half the Shepparton article would have been about the university campus). If you want the university mentioned in the article, please try to place it in a broader context, use proper grammar, punctuation and spelling, and put the more detailed material in an article about the campus, as I suggested before. If you keep wrecking the Shepparton article because you can't be bothered taking care with your edits, however, expect them to be reverted. Ambi 14:18, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm happy for people to edit articles I write - I often ask for feedback on them. Moreover, I didn't even write Shepparton, Victoria. Your creation of Goulburn Valley was utterly incomprehensible and had absolutely nothing to do with the valley, and most of your other edits have been similar - putting in rambling and badly-written nonsense about your university's goals in mostly unrelated articles. I know English may not be your first language, but while you're on the English Wikipedia, you're going to be expected to write with at least some semblance of proper grammar and punctuation. If you're not up to this (which is entirely understandable - foreign languages are hard), then perhaps you may wish to consider the Chinese Wikipedia, where this would not be an issue. Ambi 07:52, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Unfortunately, someone has to. I find no joy in having to quarrel with people - it is the most unpleasant part of working on Wikipedia. However, we're building an encyclopedia, and most of your edits so far have basically trashed the articles they've been on. I think I've found one edit so far that hasn't needed fixing. All I'm asking is that you consider what the article is about before adding material (i.e. an article on the Goulburn Valley shouldn't consist entirely of material copied from a Melbourne University pamphlet about their organisational goals in the region) and take proper care with grammar and punctuation (which I've had to fix in nearly every case). Then no one will need to worry about checking your edits. Ambi 13:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I do not want to double-check everything you write on Wikipedia, Wai Hong. I also do not doubt that you mean well. I've tried to explain why there's a few problems with your edits on Wikipedia, as opposed to just reverting them, but it seems like you've just ignored me altogether. Ambi 13:50, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Faculty of Law,University of Melbourne

This article was copied directly from the law school history page. Copying material is plagiarism, and a violation of copyright laws. I've deleted the page; please note that if you continue to add copyrighted material, you may be blocked from editing. Ambi 06:06, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

My mistake - I sincerely apologise. Ambi 04:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trinity College...

Hi Wai Hong, are you the Wai Hong in first year medicine in UniMelb? If you are, let me introduce myself. I am Chang Yang.. :D --youngyew 10:23, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

  • My email is changyang1230 (at hotmail or gmail or yahoo)

[edit] Page Blanking

On 24-Jan, you blanked Idris Al-Mutawakkil Allahi Shah ibni Al-Marhum Sultan Iskandar Shah Kasdallah. Blanking pages is generally considered a bad idea. I've reverted it to the previous version. If this was the result of a broken edit, you may wish to make the correct edits. If you believe the page should be deleted, please follow the deletion procedures. Thanks! -- JLaTondre 00:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

On 31-May, you blanked Cornerstone Church International. Please do not blank pages. It can be considered vandalism. Blanking is not the same as deleting and if you wish a page deleted, you need to follow the deletion procedures. -- JLaTondre 23:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Wikipedcom

Thanks for helping revert his vandalism on Takeshi Kaneshiro and Sepet. This isn't the first time he's vandalized those particular articles. I've blocked him for 48 hours. --DDG 06:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colleges

Thank you for adding a University Colleges box. A great idea to link them all --Schgooda 16:29, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tasik Bera

Hello. I'm sorry, but I reverted a change you made the Tasik Bera article. It seems the user you got the text from, Tabdulla, may have copied-and-pasted it from a website[1]. He seems to do that a lot. —Veyklevar 00:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prehistoric Malaysia

Hi, you are most welcome, feel free to contribute more in Prehistoric Malaysia. (L joo 16:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)).

[edit] Melb Uni Alumni

"Alumni" is not an Australian expression. Please change it to "graduates." Adam 11:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Not any more it doesn't. The term is not used in Australia and should not be used in relation to Australian universities. If you don't rename this category, I will. Adam 13:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Possibly so, but a well-informed opinion. I suspect I have been speaking Australian English rather longer than you have, so perhaps you should take my word on this. If the category has not been changed when I come back tomorrow, I will change it. Adam 13:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

It is true that Australian universities have started to use the word "alumnus" when referring to the collectivity of their graduates. They have copied such usages as "alumnus programs" from the US. But no Australian says "I am an alumnus of Melbourne University." As a Melbourne Uni graduate myself, I can attest that we say "graduate." Articles on Australian topics should reflect Australian usage. Adam 23:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

On another matter, Wai Hong, I want you to know that when you add a category like [[Category:University of Melbourne alumni]] to, say, Alice Garner, then Alice Garner will appear in the category listed under 'A'. In order to have her listed by her surname, you should type [[Category:University of Melbourne alumni|Garner, Alice]]. I am a native English speaker and I don't see anything wrong with 'alumni'. - Richardcavell 00:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neues Museum Kupfergraben

Hi Wai Hong, "Am Kupfergraben" is the name of the street on the bank of the river west of / across from the Neues Museum (and it is actually the street address for the Pergamon Museum, which is beside it, so my guess is the Neues Museum will have that address too). The literal translation is 'copper ditch', and the machine translation put it in that way, but it should stay with that German name. (Just as no one translates a better known Berlin street as "Prince Elector's Causeway", they just leave it as Kurfürstendamm). I do not know why it is called that though. I will try to clarify it in the article and am also slowly working my way through the rest of what is there (thanks for noticing). Still need to double check Kabinettsorder (my guess is royal decree), cleanup some other stuff, and then there are big chunks of the original German article that are not yet translated that I may tackle. Ruhrfisch 04:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kelantan River

hi! I am impressed with your contributions to the Kelantan River article. I'm wondering if you're interested in writing articles on other rivers in Malaysia. There are very little articles on Malaysian rivers. Wai Hong 05:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your positive feedback. Actually, the Kelantan river is the only Malaysian river I've visited or have photographed. This article benefitted from the fact that I spent some time in hospital recently and had time on my hands - so I occupied myself by researching and contributing to some WP articles (hospital system wouldn't let me login, so my edits show as 213.249.221.34). But I'm not an expert on Malaysian rivers!
Now I'm back at work, spare time is in shorter supply. But I'm sure there must be lots of other people out there who can correlate information from search engines, structure it, and then construct a well-referenced summary as a WP article. I must admit the satelite image was a bonus - I was delighted to find that World Wind showed the river up so clearly. Euchiasmus 20:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the other thing I find is that when I'm trying to research for Malaysian articles like the Kelantan River one, a lot of source materials are closed to me because, as an Englishman, I have very limited understanding of Bahasa Malaysia. That's why I've abandoned some of the other Malaysian articles I tried to create. Euchiasmus 05:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading pictures

You can check out Wikipedia:Uploading images. I don't think Google Maps can be uploaded under fair use, since they would be competing directly with Google. If we wanted to comment on the maps themselves, though, it might be acceptable. Using the maps to show the location of area competes with Google directly, however, so that would almost certainly be an unacceptable usage of the maps. Johnleemk | Talk 17:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forrest Place

Hi Wai Hong,

Thanks very much for the photo of the GPO :) It's excellent. I've uploaded a (slightly altered) copy of it on Wikimedia Commons as GeneralPostOfficePerth WaiHong.jpg. Thanks also for the photos of St Mary's and Perth Town Hall - the latter looks like it could have been taken on the same day as my one, and shows the new/old arches really well. Keep up the good work! :) - Gobeirne 10:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malay Kings

Hi Wai Hong,

I changed two things in the titles: one was removing the honorific of "sultan", since the naming conventions of wikipedia discourage using those (see Elizabeth of the United Kingdom for example), and the other was formatting the spelling. If you feel that there is a "Malaysian" way of spelling, then that's fine. My formatting was making them conform to the international standards for Arabic transliteration. Most articles are named by people who don't know what they're doing with regards to Arabic transliteration, so I often try to clean them up.

Regardless, I'm not watching those pages, so you can do as you wish with them. Thanks for the message. Cuñado - Talk 16:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Wai Hong,
Like I said, you can do as you wish. I'm only trying to clean up and standardize many hundreds of articles. I can't research every single person, because in most cases the pages are named out of ignorance. Cuñado - Talk 16:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malayo-Polynesian languages

Hi, Wai Hong. I am glad that people are working on the Malaysian articles. Just a note on language classification: In the article Malayo-Polynesian languages you changed the name of the Malayic language group to Malay. That section, Ethnologue Classification, is descriptive of a particular classification scheme employed by Ethnologue. You might want to look at my comment on the discussion page, Talk:Malayo-Polynesian languages#Malay vs. Malayic, and at the actual classification at Language Family Trees - Austronesian, Malayo-Polynesian, as well as the main Ethnologue article. Good editing! Bejnar 20:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikitable about the list of interchanges in every expressways and highways in Malaysia

Hello Wai Hong, I have created the wikitable about the list of interchanges in Ampang-Kuala Lumpur Elevated Expressway, North-South Expressway Central Link and New Klang Valley Expressway. Can you created the wikitable about the list of interchanges in every expressways and highways in Malaysia? -- Highway specialist in Malaysia, 13:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese Malaysian vs Malaysian Chinese

Which term do you think describe the Chinese in Malaysia the best? __earth (Talk) 06:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

then, would you mind voting for Chinese Malaysian at Talk:Chinese_Malaysian#Vote? __earth (Talk) 06:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subang Jaya Freak storm

I am reverting the changes you made on Freak Storm. There are sightings all over the internet. http://mailman.newdream.net/pipermail/groop/2005-August/009065.html The Star even reported it http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/8/11/nation/11738703&sec=nation

[edit] Rumah Gadang

I noticed you put a Malayasian architecture category under Rumah Gadang. Do you have any sources that show that it exists in Malaysia? --Merbabu 08:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

They still exist in Negeri Sembilan where there's a community of Minangkabaus. Besides, the rumah gadang has been an inspiration to the design of other buildings such as Muzium Negara, Malaysia's national museum.Wai Hong 08:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, that could be good information for the article. --Merbabu 08:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rest areas

I based my decision on the articles such as:

(and indeed their enitre category: M1 Motorway service stations, or the bigger cat Motorway service stations in the United Kingdom

--Robdurbar 18:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Masjid vs Mosque

I prefer mosque since this is an English Wikipedia. If I remember correctly, there are already precedents on the matter - it concerns French and English name. I don't remember if the result of the consensus to use French or English word though. But if Masjid is already common, I don't see a need to change it. __earth (Talk) 10:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pedra Branca

I noticed that you had copied the whole article from Pedra Branca, Singapore and pasted it to Pedra Branca. Good job! But a cut and paste move is not acceptable on Wikipedia; it may cause page history confusions. I suggest you take a look at Help:Moving a page. Besides, Wikipedia works by consensus (see Wikipedia:Consensus); no consensus had been reach on moving the page and to where. Discuss the move first.--Joshua Chiew 14:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming of Johor

Thanks for the information. Johnson 10:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Johorean sultan

Alauddin II was the first sultan. Alauddin I was a Malacca sultan. __earth (Talk) 01:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On November 28, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hussein Shah of Johor, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

thanks for the article Wai Hong, very interesting. Vsion kindly nominated this article - feel free to self-nom in future, as the majority of our nominations are such.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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