Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Paradoxism-Neutrosophy
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I'm relisting these articles (paradoxism and neutrosophy), as the vfd listing was accidentally clobbered [1] by User:Wrendelgeth. I originally listed them at 06:15, 9 Jun 2004, and the paradoxism section, which had the votes, was clobbered at 03:26, 11 Jun 2004. I guess that these will be eligible for removal in, say, 3 days and some hours. I've pasted the previous votes immediately below; let's put new votes after that. Regards, Wile E. Heresiarch 05:46, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
(under the paradoxism heading on vfd as of 03:26, 11 Jun 2004)
- Vanity article promoting Florentin Smarandache. Every now and then an anonymous editor comes around to add more Smarandache promo material. Smarandache has a long, obnoxious history of promoting himself in various Internet forums and Wikipedia in particular, both in person and through sock puppets. This is just more of the same, and we can expect him to persist indefinitely. Away with it. Wile E. Heresiarch 06:15, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Well, just how notable is he? I think if he's notable enough to be included, his theories probably are, too, assuming they are something he is known for. Everyking 07:02, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- You'll find Smarandache all over the web, where he has placed advertisements in the mouths of sock puppets far and wide. He's exploited several means of free self promotion -- Usenet, Yahoo groups, mailing lists, Sloane's catalog of integer sequences, and, of course, Wikipedia. See User:Smarandache fan for starters, and then see the two VfD discussions at talk:Florentin Smarandache. In addition to the endless promo material, Smarandache might have a couple of peer reviewed publications; be that as it may, it's not enough for a notable reputation. Wile E. Heresiarch 20:01, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Well, just how notable is he? I think if he's notable enough to be included, his theories probably are, too, assuming they are something he is known for. Everyking 07:02, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Given my respect for Wile E's POV, if he say this guy is a self-aggrandizer who's peppering the internet with attempts at free ads for what I presume to be questionable theories, I agree and vote to delete all. - Lucky 6.9 16:15, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. However it's so utterly bad, it might be worth knowing something about.CSTAR 22:48, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
(under the Neutrosophy heading on vfd)
- Vanity article promoting Florentin Smarandache. As with paradoxism. Wile E. Heresiarch 06:15, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- There's an incredibly long discussion on Talk:Neutrosophy from the last time this article was listed for deletion (which was a year ago). -- Cyrius|✎ 06:18, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
new votes here, please. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:46, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I think Neutrosophy may be an idea with some value, but Wikipedia does not need all of this material. I can't vote to delete, but I would be in favor of trimming these articles down and merging them into a single NPOV entry. I understand that doing so would involve work, and whether or not it is worth it will be for others to decide, as I am not qualified or motivated to work on these articles. Nat 14:49, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Self-aggrandizement should not be rewarded. While Florentin Smarandache may be a legend in his own mind, I am wondering why there is even a Wiki article on him. After his untimely death, it may be appropriate to remember him as one of the most aggressively conceited people of his day, but it's like being a painter - you don't get rich until after you're dead. Denni☯ 23:38, 2004 Jun 20 (UTC)
- Delete: It's not a dialectic development, but an idiosyncratic objection to it. Fair enough, but the "notable" factor comes in the fact that the guy who coined the term organized a conference about himself and published the results in a vanity press. I've known lots of people who have had deep thoughts and given names to them. Some of them have self-published, too. Some were even wealthy and bought presses and self-published. Where are the peer-reviewed articles? Where is the academic standing? Where is the testimony from outside? Geogre 18:32, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Delete, or at least shorten the article and make it accurate:
- Smarandache is an associate professor at (wherever). Through numerous postings on internet sites he has acquired a reputation for self-aggrandizement. Outside of a small circle of supporters, the value of his work is questioned. Hs mathematical work consists mainly of definitions, with no useful relation to any existing problem.CSTAR 17:23, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
