Talk:Vladimír Mečiar

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I note that someone has gone through the article and removed such "unimportant" info as this: that he was born "the eldest of four boys. His father was a tailor, and his mother a housewife." Everyking 14:51, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I really do not consider politicians father being a tailor a crucial issue. Everybody's father does something and yet we (normally) do not mention it. In former Czechoslovakia it is really nothing soooo special. Btw. the last link you added is really really out-dated and obviously in favour of him. mz 29 Aug 2004, 17:42 GMT+2

Knowing about a person's family is certainly useful information, it gives an idea of how the person grew up, where he or she came from. It's standard info for a reasonably thorough biographical article. I didn't add the links and I have now divided the two comments for clarity. Everyking 16:00, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
In that case I apologise for senseless critique. Anyway, I just considered the information about his family background unimportant regarding the fact that many other more important information about his political career (essential for a "thourough article") are missing (and it is not my ambition, at least for now, to add them). Anyway, if you are really lacking it, go ahead (btw. he is married with 3 grown-up kids). mz December 14 2006, 01:08
I have never seen such a destruction of neutral information in the Wikipedia until now and I have seen many things here. Just for your information, we usually add information and do not delete it here. In addition, you have even "corrected" a text already corrected by a native speaker...Juro 20:23, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I assume you that I have been observing Meciar's political career very closely since 1995. I can prove that most of information I removed was half-true (such as "He was advocating [...] continued federation with the Czechs.") and the article as a whole is quite unbalanced. (But I admit that I might have done some mistakes, deleting information that I should have left.) However, I am really not interested into any sort of political debate here, so I just leave this article as it is, because it is not worth my time (at least not in present moment). In future I am open to discuss some issues I consider controversial in this article. PS. I really didn't mean to vandalise the article, I am sorry if it looked like, but you should not be so touchy, either. mz 22:31, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

(1) A personal tip. When you do not want to end like me, then leave the Wikipedia immediately!!! Everybody is so touchy here after one year or so, unless he does write about things that nobody else is interested in.... :) (2)In general, you cannot delete half an article, like in this case, and expect that nobody will notice that, and everybody will agree. A previous discussion is necessary. (3)As for Meciar himself, I can assure you that I am not a fan of him. But we are writing an encyclopaedia and the article is simply a collection of facts and deliberately contains no opinions. Me and the other authors were not "observing his career", but used available web links and literature. (4) "He was advocating [...] continued federation with the Czechs." - he WAS advocating it until before the 1992 elections, even afterwards - during the negotiations - he was not a full advocator of a separation. There is no informed person and no text in the world that would claim the opposite. But as for this particular point, you do not have to observe anything, it is enough to use your memory (if you are not too young).

PS: There is a new Slovak wiki that needs much help... Juro 01:23, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

OK, I apologise for deleting the text. Please consider it a newbie mistake. Perhaps, in the future we might work out an even better version of this article. Well-balanced, but without deleting ;) mz 20:09, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Žiar nad Hronom|Ziar nad Hronom - why not just Žiar nad Hronom? JanSuchy 23:05, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just hidden away

Why does somebody go to the trouble of working on articles like this, just to keep it obscure and hidden away because of a failure to make redirects from the English alphabet spellings, such as Vladimir Meclar which is a redlink? Gene Nygaard 19:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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