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[edit] Linux virtual consoles

My GNU/Linux distribution has virtual consoles. How about a disambiguation page?

This Article and information should be merged with "Nintendo Revolution"

I've now created an article about the Linux virtual consoles at Virtual console and added a disambiguation link in both directions, plus a main article link at Nintendo Revolution#Virtual Console. --TuukkaH 12:33, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I think this page is entirely unnecessary and everything's already mentioned in the Revolution article. Maybe we should nominate this for deletion. -TonicBH 14:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


How many people will be looking for the Linux thing? I never heard about that other virtual console before now and I think most people looking for Virtual Console would be looking for the Wii version. TJ Spyke 01:51, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

If we are to keep the article about Nintendo's Virtual Console separate from Nintendo Revolution, we can call it Virtual Console, Nintendo Virtual Console, Virtual Console (Wii) etc. This is about a specific product and trademark of a company. The other article is about a generic concept in computing, virtual consoles, and can be called Virtual console, Virtual console (computing) etc. These names don't even overlap in the strict sense, so we don't need a disambiguation. Of course as the difference can be as small as just the capitalization, it's good to have a disambiguation note at the top of the pages. Another reason why we don't need disambiguation page is that there are just two articles that can point to each other directly. --TuukkaH 16:46, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Given the number of false game lists floating around, anyone care to source where this one came from? 24.77.135.3 22:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/680/680846p1.html This article has a lot of information. It also includes several more games. However, it only says that those games are "likely", and with the article coming from January, it might now be out of date. Still, it came from an official survey. 131.230.185.23 16:21, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Virtual Console Pictures

where is the souce for this Picture. Image:VirtualConsole E3Preview.jpg--DivineShadow218 01:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

You don't really need the source as long as the copyright is correct. Mopper Speak! 01:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
And the source is listed in the image description... --Interiot 01:47, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How many games?

Are they going to have pretty much all nes, snes and n64 games? Will I be able to play River City Ransom, Castlevania II, and Sqaure games, or will it mostly just be a few Sega and Nintendo games? If its only 25% of all the games for those consoles then I won't like it. Having 80% or something would make me buy a Wii immediately at launch --Havermayer 02:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-81049.html Ace ofspade 18:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone still have the link to the original VC patent? CrossEyed7 23:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[1] --Interiot 18:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Is this real?

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/nintendo.jpg From EDGE magazine. 12.219.74.52 12:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

If you're asking if it is actually in the magazine, it looks like it, judging from the discussions on some Internet forums. If you're asking if it's credible, it's hard to say. I'm a little skeptical, myself. Dancter 16:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
It looks fake to me. TJ Spyke 05:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Fake [2]Apofisu 15:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know about fake, these controllers are available in USB flavors now.

[edit] Bonk

Is one of the first titles on the V. Console under the TurboGrafx-16 library. Hope this was helpful. FullMetal Falcon 13:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translaters

I've seen on a few pages on Wikipedia (mostly regarding Fire Emblem games) that Nintendo is hiring translators for Japan Only games to be released on VC. Can anyone confirm this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.126.137.209 (talk • contribs).

I haven't read anything like that, so it's just a rumor. Also, please sign your comments in the future. TJ Spyke 20:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move

I have request that the page current at Virtual console be moved and to make it a disambiguation page since I think alot of people looking for Virtual Console now will be wanting info on this one. You can vote at Talk:Virtual console. TJ Spyke 20:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Please consider my comment above, at #Linux virtual consoles --TuukkaH 12:51, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] why I put new games on list and where did I get by source

I put these new games on the list because I went to IGN.com and foung a list of games for the Virtual Console. That is why I added a bunch of new games to the Virtual Console list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hjkgk (talk • contribs) 01:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for finally responding to requests for discussion. Now we're making progress. Could you provide some links to these IGN pages so we can verify that these games are confirmed for the Virtual Console? Dancter 01:35, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where I got my source?

This is the source that I found all of the games I put on the list. http://revolution.ign.com/articles/680/680846p1.html

Quite an old article, however. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 19:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Credible Sources

Some of the games (Citing link 11) have been taken from the Play-Nintendo article, and it doesn't strike me as the kind of site that would get this exclusive. Either they need to be seperated out from the confirmed list and thrown onto a grain-of-salt list, so to speak, or removed from the article until confirmation is issued. A "Trustworthy Source" from a relatively unknown site that appears to be an amateur rather than professional reporting site leads me to believe that it probably isn't credible enough to be featured in the article. Gaz 15:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

It's sorted now, I think until confirmation arrives that segregating the potential list is a good thing to do. Good job. Gaz 09:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added SEGA Games 9.11.2006

Hey I added the Sega titles that are listed in the ESRB's database. I cannot get the REF to post correctly. Can someone help me out. Thanks so much--Trainwrecka 02:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

BIG THANX TO WHOEVER HELPED!--Trainwrecka 03:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I've seen it here and there, but anybody have any credible sources on Emulators versus Virtual Console?

I've seen it bandied about on a few forums often enough, generally something along the lines of "Wait, I can buy an emulated copy of Super Mario Brothers I can play on my Wii instead of playing an emulated copy on my computer? Cool!", but I'm having a bit of trouble finding credible sources so that this sort of thing can be added into the article.

If anybody's seen anything, please let me know. 151.151.73.168 17:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

There are clearly a large number of console emulators available. It might not have been added to the article because people don't often compare legal and illegal alternatives (eg. ITunes Store doesn't mention Kazaa). --Interiot 17:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
One piece of information that would be useful on this page is whether Virtual Console titles are emulated or are actually new ports of the old games. I'd guess it's the latter, otherwise it would be much easier and faster to make the games available; the cautious release schedule suggests that they've got people rewriting the games (to some extent) for Wii. Kelvingreen 15:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference #13

That needs to be fixed. FullMetal Falcon 23:25, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The entire list of "confirmed games" needs to be completely overhauled. Games like "Hey You! Pikachu!" are in no way confirmed for the virtual console. Additionally, sources apparently confirming games like Donkey Kong Country are completely bogus. This is not acceptable. Maybe we should revert back to a list containing only games seen in official videos and screenshots, like Link to the Past and R-Type. This would GUARANTEE factual accuracy and discourage fanboy pipedreams and false evidence, such as the ESRB list containing multiple Genesis titles, which has since dissappeared. Additionally, Nintendo has confirmed that only thirty games will be availible for download on launch, and the list that has been concocted on this article greatly surpasses this number. Bogus. thealexfish 08:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Not only that, but such lists shouldn't hog the article space. Maybe a list of confirmed /launch/ games is fine for the article now (just because there are 30 launch games doesn't mean that more can't be confirmed for eventual download), but later on it should be broken off into its own page. There also the issue of that Brian guy mucking up the history with edits over and over... ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 11:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
What's really bad is that all of those "confirmed" games are not confirmed by that video. The only ones I see/hear mentioned in that video at all are The Legend of Zelda, Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, and Donkey Kong. I will now remove all entries with cite 13 besides those four. --HeroicJay 08:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
This page has become a mess. How is a page at IGN confirmation Metroid will be available? Or speculation that games rated by the OFLC (or whatever it's called) confirmation? Either these games should be removed or REAL sources should be found (i.e. Nintendo saying Metroid will be available, not an IGN page whos sole content is "A downloadable version of the classic NES game, provided through Nintendo's Virtual Console service", which is NOT confirmation). TJ Spyke 06:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] question

Do you have to be online to download games?GrimRepr39 20:14, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you need an internet connection to download the game, but afterwards it is stored in the memory card, so you can play it while offline. -- ReyBrujo 20:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Game Saves

I have a question. If you delete a game then redownload it, does you're game saves stay on the game, or are they wiped out? Toasty! | Available at your local store 04:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

AFAIK game saves are not uploaded to a remote Nintendo server, so... no. User:oly 02:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Er, that doesn't mean the saves couldn't be stored locally. When you sell a disc game, your memory card save doesn't magically disappear... ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 03:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
The way I see this, when you buy the game, it is stored on your memory card as a "block". Then your game saves are stored on a seperate "block". If you delete the game, your save block is still there. If you format your Wii's memory or delete your save, THEN you will lose your save block. —Shanesan (contribs) (Talk) 00:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Some games create seperate save files from my understanding, these can be placed onto an SD card, however the games themselves cannot. The games are stored on the internal memory (as are game saves by default). So seperate memory blocks. 24.247.176.252 05:04, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controller

If there is some official answer to the question, "Can the Game Cube controller be used for the Virtual Console, avoiding the need to buy the Classic Controller extension to the Wiimote?" it would probably make a useful addition to this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.184.146.67 (talk • contribs) .

It's an excellent question, and one I'd love to know the answer to. Nintendo will want to sell Classic Controllers, so the VC software may be programmed not to accept GC controller input. That would be astonishingly mean though, and I'd guess that the GC controller will work, but that the one-size-fit-all design of the Classic Controller will make it easier to use; I don't know how you'd intuitively map SNES controls to a GC pad, for example. Kelvingreen 17:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, then again, the Wii may let you map controls for the GC controller. Unrelated: how much does the classic controller cost anyways? --Plainnym 15:20, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I just found this in the article,
"Lastly, the Gamecube controller can be used for all games."
So yes it can! --Plainnym 15:25, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Assuming "all games" includes Virtual Console games too. We'll see soon enough anyway. Kelvingreen 23:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Gamecube controller cannot be used for them all. I purchased F-Zero and it says I must have the Classic Controller. --Riskbreaker87 23:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind. I got it to work. Sorry if I confused someone so just disregard my previous statement.--Riskbreaker87 03:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd try for yourself. I recall reading somewhere (GameSpot?) that while SM64 reported compatibility only with the Classic Controller, that it worked with the GC pad anyway. Eusis 00:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] saturn!!!??!!???

I want proof!

[edit] Sega Dreamcast?

I highly doubt this. The graph is not made accordingly, and I believe they said that Dreamcast games have too much data to store on VC. Linktriforce007 14:39, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I believe it is time this article have some restrictions over who can edit it before this gets too out of hand, like how the article on Wii itself is protected. Just a suggestion. ::Cubedcinder128 01:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thats what I was hoping for as well. Linktriforce007 14:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zelda II?

Looking at the discussion page, I can see there's some disagreement over confirmed VC titles, so I doubt there's any info on this, but has anyone heard anything about Zelda II being made available? Kelvingreen 17:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reason for removal

A suppliment in the December 2006 issue of Edge states that the Virtual Console's "retro" lineup will only include those titles previously released in the region in question. For example, the SNES title Chrono Trigger could be made available on the Japanese and North American versions of the service, but not the service for Europe, as the title was never released there.

Removed last edit, when a few minor changes were also made which I don't contest. Obviously there are reasons why it might be worth removing it but with and empty Edit Summary I'm kind of obliged to ask. Sockatume 23:04, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks to me like the person reverted back to the old state it was in before the person reformatted the game list to all one line (and making the article needlessly large). It had the unfortunate consequence of removing that line. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 23:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Ah, right, I wasn't sure whether it was a revert or a straight edit from the Edit History. I'm going to leave it out until confirmation anyway, on second thoughts. Sockatume 22:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confirmed Games (Wii and Virtual Console)

Today, it seems that Nintendo has announced a finalized list of games (32 to count) as well as the final list of Virtual Console games (30 to count) to be out by five weeks after the console's launch. It also lists the Virtual Console official price for games. You pretty much know the Wii list, so just look at the link provided to check. And the Virtual Console games:

NES: Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Ice Hockey, Pinball, Soccer, Tennis, Urban Champion, Wario’s Woods, Baseball, Solomon’s Key

SNES: F-Zero, SimCity

N64: Super Mario 64

Sega Genesis: Sonic the Hedgehog, Altered Beast, Golden Axe, Columns, Ecco the Dolphin, Gunstar Heroes, Space Harrier II, Toe Jam & Earl, Ristar, Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine

TurboGrafx16: Bonk’s Adventure, Super Star Soldier, Victory Run, Bomberman ’93, Dungeon Explorer

Here's the proof: [3]. This info on nintendo.com has been released today (10/31), so it's not old news, and it's official. Hope this helps expand the article. :) (NOTE: This was also posted at the Wii talk page, and was requested to be put here as well.) Darknut Slayer 04:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What? No SMW at launch???

It seems like there is no SMW at launch or until september[4]!!!!!!!!!!!Frankyboy5 05:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Dude this isn't really supposed to be used as a chat room. Bendragonbrown47 19:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm trying to say either revert it(already done) or put delayed until 2007 on the article. Frankyboy5 23:01, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Try before you Buy?

Will there be demos of the virtual consoles available to play before you buy it? Toasty! | Available at your local store 22:59, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure, the demo system is called BitTorrent
No but seriously, I don't think so. Arkhiver 03:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC) (both this and the above comment about BitTorrent were by Arkhiver)

[edit] No Commodore 64 games

I talked to a member of Nintendo, who said that there are no deals made yet for Commodore 64 games. I don't want to change it without agreement, but unless anyone has OFFICIAL word of Commodore 64 deals, the information should be deleted. And the current source is not official.

[edit] release table is wonky?

Is there a reason why the table of releases is staggered like that? And would it be helpful to link the game titles to their wikipedia pages? Kelvingreen 13:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed the table - it had just been constructed incorrectly. And yes, it would be good to link to the game pages. I don't have time now, but I can do it later if nobody gets to it first. Koweja 13:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I've got a bit of time, so I'll get started. I didn't want to start without checking first. Kelvingreen 14:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
The table could still do with some re-ordering and tidying, but all the links (the ones that existed, anyway) are in. I wasn't sure about Bomberman '93 (the Mega Drive port was Bomberman '94, so that's linked), so I just linked to Super Bomberman, which came out in 1993. Also, some links, like Space Harrier II and Adventure Island, currently go to franchise pages rather than individual game pages, as those individual pages don't yet exist (Adventure Island), or are included in the main franchise page (Space Harrier II). Kelvingreen 15:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Nintendo removed VC lineup

FYI, Nintendo deleted the newspost with the VC info. We need to edit the page to reflect that, as the source is now gone....Unsigned user.

[edit] Launch Table

The new look launch table needs some cleanup. A number of the links are badly constructed [[Baseball_%28Nintendo_game%29|Baseball]] instead of [[Baseball (Nintendo game)|Baseball]]. Not to mention that since the section has been changed it no longer lists games by original console.--- bd Sup? - Where we goin'? 17:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The untidy links are my fault, as I just copy and pasted most of them. As for your other point, I'm not sure the games were ever listed by original console, were they? I certainly didn't change the order of the games. Kelvingreen 18:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

JQF's edits now make it look 10x better than before. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 19:23, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

That was incredibly fast. Good show. - They were last listed by original console as recently as Wednesday.--- bd Sup? - Where we goin'? 19:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh yes that's much better, and it'll be much easier to update too. Good work! (although The Legend of Zelda should be listed under L rather than T, shouldn't it?) Kelvingreen 20:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
You are right, titles that start with "The" are listed by the next word. So The Legend of Zelda would be listed under L. TJ Spyke 05:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Someone needs to watch the USA table. Someone keeps editing it, and inserting games that will not be available (like DKC).

I've been watching this article for a while, and it's really gotten a lot of bad edits (I shall assume good faith and not say any more than that). I imagine once the damn thing is finally out it'll calm down a little, as they'll be tangible facts, but who knows. It might be interesting to note that Wii is the 10th most edited article ever, and second highest after RuneScape of all things (see here if you're curious). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 15:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I think we should include ALL virtual console games, bolding the launch window ones, and italizing the disputed ones.Chwoka

And I think we should only add those that have been confirmed, and later, that have been released. Kelvingreen 09:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No Rumble?

According to this article, there is to be no rumble for the N64 games. Proto Dude 04:17, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, the early N64 games didn't have rumble. StarFox64 was the first N64 game to have rumble. Also, the article is some what wrong because the V.Controller doesn't have rumble directly, but since the V.comtroller is attached to the Wii Remote, the Wii Remote could rumble for the V.Controller. But this is just what I think. Kur 4 th Ich 19:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This page needs to be renamed

This page should be moved to Virtual Console; as it stands, "Virtual Console" redirects to Virtual console. The articles are differentiated by the case of the letter c. Furthermore, if the article remains with the title "Virtual Console (Wii)," the other article template at the top of the page is not necessary. Of course, if the page is moved to "Virtual Console" as it should be, then the other article template would be necessary. --Tristam 23:08, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Check the talk page of Virtual console. I request a move and it was shot down. I personally never even heard of that other Virtual Console until I went to see what the Wikipedia page for the VC looked like. TJ Spyke 23:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
When there is a one-letter difference (and a uppercase, by all means), the redirection is valid. See Wikipedia:Redirect, the Other capitalisations, to ensure that "Go" to a mixed-capitalisation article title is case-insensitive section. The current way is the correct one. -- ReyBrujo 23:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I was unaware. If that's the case, the "other article" template is unnecessary. Nobody that searches for "Virtual Console (Wii)" will be surprised that they arrived at the Wii's download service. --Tristam 01:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
This article has no Virtual Console disambiguation, from what I see. However, the disambiguation at Virtual console is correct, because someone looking for "Virtual Console" may want to come here instead. -- ReyBrujo 01:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Oops, sorry, did not notice you had already removed it :-) -- ReyBrujo 01:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Rey: I completely agree with the disambig template at the top of the Virtual console article. :) --Tristam 03:03, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wii Points

Wii Points is a country?!?!?!?!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by TaintedKiller (talk • contribs).

Virtual Console games are bought using Wii Points, the money amount is how much that would be in cash based on how much a Wii Points card cost in that country (for example, 2000 Wii Points cost $20 in the US so 800 Wii Points=USD$8). Also, remember to sign you comments. TJ Spyke 20:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Available titles

I added a new table that reflected the currently released North American titles. The idea was to mirror the information found on the Xbox Live Arcade page that has a table consisting of released and another for speculated titles. I would assume that similar tables will be added for the other regions as they launch there. Ryuzx 10:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)ryuzx

It's a nice clear table, but I do wonder if building one of these for each region will make the page cluttered. Kelvingreen 16:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree, the page is already cluttered as it is, and as time goes on, it'll just get worse... ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 17:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Should it link to another article for the region-specific tables? It will, by the end of this year, consist of 4 charts of around 30 games each, so I agree that the page will quite soon become predominantly the Titles section. I'm certain as more ESRB ratings are found for more VC games we'll see the speculation chart also grow, although ESRB rated games only reflect US releases (speaking of ESRB, perhaps that info should be added to the chart?). This explains why the speculated release chart is so lopsided and may also get worse. Should we replace both charts with four links to separate articles based on region for all titles available and coming soon? Ryuzx 17:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)ryuzx
Just as an additional suggestion, should the table be broken up into "Released Games" and "Announced Games" sections?
I would say that it would be easier it just have it as it is now, with the titles bolded/not bolded, rather than shuffling titles endlessly from table to table as they're released. Kelvingreen 21:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] article on released games?

Should we add an article which includes the Retro(Virtual, but Retro sounds better to me) Games that are already out? I'm not sure if it would be a hassle to update the article every monday (most likely would). Maybe add a page just for the Retro games. Kur 4 th Ich 18:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] US Titles list gone?

What happened to this part of the titles list?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.149.89.175 (talk • contribs).

Look under the Titles section. North America VC games were moved to their own article (similar to Xbox Live Arcade games). TJ Spyke 06:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] i added the official logo from wii.nintendo.com

...yea thats it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thealimighty1 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Controller types table

This needs to be brought up. We all know that by "Undetermined" it means "some" games work with given controllers. However, it only says "Undetermined" in the manual and Wii website (neither of which is cited as a source, I notice). So, someone needs to grab a reference (such as an IGN or Gamespot article) where they say what "undetermined" means in this context. For example "The Wii controller can be used for some Turbografix titles". Just look for an article with a sentence like that and it should be sufficient. Until then that table should read "Undetermined" and should definitely reference the Wii manual or the Nintendo Wii website. Sockatume 02:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Undetermined is resolved on both the source side and Nintendo's site, as it's sourced in the text prior and Nintendo's site reads 'some' instead. I'm really not sure why only some games, but not all, since even for 6 button games the GC has enough buttons, but they're probably just covering in case things don't work out later. Eusis 04:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Then reference away. Sockatume 15:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Do you want it referenced on the table itself or something? Because it's already referenced in the article prior to the table. 22 at that. Eusis 20:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
My bad, I hadn't noticed it was already covered. Sockatume 21:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main articles for other regions?

Should separate articles be started for Japan (http://wii.ign.com/articles/747/747663p1.html) and Australia (http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5068)? The Japanese article at IGN has a complete launch line-up of 39 titles with 12 more to be released by year's end, with release dates and prices. The Australia link has no TG16 titles (is this for real? why?) but actually lists Commodore 64 titles for 2007. The current chart has served its purpose well, but is it time for separate charts to be placed on this page or on separate articles like how I did the North America one? Ryuzx 08:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)ryuzx

Commodore 64 has never been confirmed by Nintendo, that was just reported by a Japanese website. TG16 hasn't been announced for Australia because the system was never released there (although i'm sure this would give them more of a reason to want to try the TG16 games, so I think they are losing potential money). I wouldn't be opposed to pages for each region. TJ Spyke 01:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
C64 was reported by the European publisher (System 3) which was looking to get titles on the service, which would be a better reference than a third-party Japanese website. Damned if I know where the citation is, though. Sockatume 02:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
That citation would have to be found first of coarse. TJ Spyke 02:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Remote and GCN Gamepad playing SOME Genesis games?

Which games can be played and which can't be played with the Remote and Gamepad then?VDZ 15:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Sonic the Hedeghog can. Saw a YouTube vid of it if you need it sourced. Knuckles sonic8 20:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


Presumeably, all 3-Button Genesis games, like Sonic, and Altered Beast, can be played with the Wiimote, buttons A, B, C on genesis become A, 1, 2 on Wii, but i guess that 6-Button games will require the Classic Controller, or a Gamecube Pad. I don't think there are any 6-button only games up yet (Here in Europe at least) , so no way of confirming. 84.68.216.140 14:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PAL region subdivided

Linkage. At PAL launch, there are going to be three sub-regions for virtual console titles. Austria, Belgium, Ireland, Norway, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Sweden, and Switzerland form one region at the moment, getting nine titles. Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain will miss out on three of these, leaving them with six titles. Australia and New Zealand aren't going to get any Turbografix titles because the system was never released there, so that leaves them with three titles at launch. I'm open to suggestions for how we can get this information into the article in a non-messy way. Sockatume 01:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd suggest removing the game listings entirely from this page and create a separate article "List of Virtual Console titles (PAL)" with explanation and just specify which PAL sub-region in the chart, like the NA VC list article does for the controller. Ryuzx 02:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cheats?

Do the old cheats, passwords, etc work on VC games? This would go some way to determining whether the games are emulated or are full, new, ports. Kelvingreen 10:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm pretty sure they're emulated, because your first download on each platform has an extra chunk of data attached to it which is unlikely to be anything but an emulator (e.g. Donkey Kong NES is about 100 blocks to download if it's your first NES game but it's only 20 blocks when you look at it on the save screen). And Nintendo are apparently priding themselves on the fidelity of the conversions. I'd go as far as to suggest they might just be ROM dumps of the original cartridges. Sockatume 10:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I think you're probably right. On the other hand, talk of extra features and enhanced graphics, etc suggests some tinkering beyond just a ROM dump. I'm sure it'll become clear as people tinker with the VC operating system. Kelvingreen 23:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I reckon the "updates" will be patches for the ROMs or somesuch. There's still no official word on how it really works, unfortunately, so all we can do is speculate. Sockatume 06:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Sadly yes. I hope some information arises soon, as this is one of the more interesting aspects of Wii for me. Kelvingreen 17:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Button Mapping?

Allo.
This seems to be covered in the article, but I just want to make sure I know how this works...
Say I'm playing an NES game, with the "classic" controller... Am I forced to use the A button on the controller for the game's A button, and the B button on the controller for the game's B button? (ew)
Or, is the A mapped to B, and the B mapped to Y? (to maintain a closer orientation to the original)
And, same question for the Gamecube controller instead of the classic controller. A to A and B to B? (That I could live with) Bladestorm 20:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I take it you haven't downloaded any VC games yet? There is no button mapping. The digital instructions even tell you what buttons you have to use. You have to use the A button (or 1 button on the Wii Remote) for actions that used the A button on the NES controller. So the X and Y buttons on the Classic Controller and GameCube controller are not use for NES/TG16/Genesis games. TJ Spyke 22:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I haven't been able to get a wii at all yet. But thanks a lot! (duh! the wiimote! I somehow forgot you can use that for NES games!) Anyways, thanks. Bladestorm 17:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Table Proposed

When I get around to it, I will merge List of Virtual Console titles (North America) into Virtual Console (Wii) similar to a table like in the MapleStory article. This will be up before Monday, hopefully. TheListUpdater 22:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure I like this idea. The reason a separate page was set-up was because eventually the list of available and anticipated releases were going to be too large. It is my opinion that it would be best to remove the Japanese and the two or three PAL regions into their own separate articles as well and have no games listed on this page. Ryuzx 02:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible innaccuracy?

"Games downloaded from Virtual Console library will be stored on Wii's built-in 512 MB flash memory, but not on SD cards"

I was under the impression that 'channels' could be backed up on SD cards, including VC games which act as channels. I won't change it now in case I'm wrong. --Thaddius 16:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I read that you can copy virtual console games to a SD card, but you won't see them in the channels. That is, in order to play them, they must be in the built-in memory. However, I am too lazy right now to search for a reference :) -- ReyBrujo 19:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Curse of PAL

Well, it seems that the PAL VC games are exact copies of the originals, running slower and boasting black bars on the top and bottom of the screen, just like the old days. Doesn't bother me, but it's got a lot of people's backs up, and should perhaps be mentioned in the article. I have heard, however, that some games, notably Mario 64, will be "fixed" to run full screen and full speed. If a source can be found for this, it too should be added. Kelvingreen 22:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see it's already in the article. Never mind. I'd still like to see confirmation on the "optimised" games though. Kelvingreen 22:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
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