Talk:Virginia State Route 267
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While I'd like to thank VTHawkeye for adding a lot of information to the Dulles Toll Road page, I think some of the information provided is inaccurate, or at least can be confusing. In the second paragraph, in discussing the history of the Dulles Toll and Access Roads, one can get the impression that they were built together at the same time. This is not the case. The Dulles Access Road, which was built by the MWAA solely to get people to and from the airport, opened with the airport in 1964. It only allowed travel to and from the airport. There were no exit ramps from the road going westbound -- just entrance ramps, and there were no entrance ramps going eastbound. It wasn't until the 1980s did the parallel road built by VDoT for the communities of Reston and Herndon open. This is the outer road that is the Dulles Toll Road, which would now allow drivers to enter and exit at intermediate points. So for 15-20 years the road was useless for commuter travel.
According to [1], the Toll Road opened in 1984. Dbenbenn 01:30, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The airport opened in 1962, not 64. [2] confirms that the first 13.5 miles of the Access Road opened at the same time; the last 2.5 connecting to I-66 weren't built until 1983. Dbenbenn 01:55, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for the fixes -- after I made my additions, I did some more research, and just hadn't come back to fix my errors yet. VT hawkeye 05:46, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Three Dulles roads and VA 267
What do people think of merging this with Dulles Greenway and renaming it to Virginia State Highway 267, with the others redirecting? As it currently stands, VA 267 redirects here, but the Greenway is also 267, and so 267 should properly be a very short page saying that it consists of these two roads. That seems rather poor to me. An alternate solution might be keeping it as-is but adding a link to Dulles Greenway to the top of this page, saying it's also part of 267. --SPUI 02:22, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Is the access road also called 267? I don't know, but I don't think so. It was built by the FAA, not VDOT. Dbenbenn 03:03, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- The access road is not, but the toll road is. Those are already in the same article, despite the article being named Dulles Toll Road. And it seems stupid to split those two, being hopelessly intermingled. Maybe Dulles highway corridor or something equally invented but descriptive?--SPUI 03:46, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Virginia State Highway 267 seems fine; certainly better than making up a term. And it fits with the highway names for other states. Dbenbenn 02:50, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- It should be noted that the Greenway is also not technically 267, since it's a privately-owned road; the 267 numbering and signage from IAD to Leesburg is a courtesy designation only. But for the naming of a combined article, I think it's better than something contrived. VT hawkeye 05:46, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Eh, are you sure about that? Is there a law that says that a privately-owned road can't be numbered? Why should it be any different from another public agency or semi-public authority owning a road that's signed as a state road? --SPUI 07:41, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- The third-to-last paragraph of [3] seems to indicate that only the toll road is technically VA 267. Dbenbenn 02:32, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- According to the 2003 Virginia Route Index ([4]) it describes 267 as running "From Routes 7/15 in Leesburg to Route I-66 north of Falls Church, including the parallel lanes along the Dulles International Airport Access Road." -- SterlingNorth 13:23, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The third-to-last paragraph of [3] seems to indicate that only the toll road is technically VA 267. Dbenbenn 02:32, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Eh, are you sure about that? Is there a law that says that a privately-owned road can't be numbered? Why should it be any different from another public agency or semi-public authority owning a road that's signed as a state road? --SPUI 07:41, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- It should be noted that the Greenway is also not technically 267, since it's a privately-owned road; the 267 numbering and signage from IAD to Leesburg is a courtesy designation only. But for the naming of a combined article, I think it's better than something contrived. VT hawkeye 05:46, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Virginia State Highway 267 seems fine; certainly better than making up a term. And it fits with the highway names for other states. Dbenbenn 02:50, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- The access road is not, but the toll road is. Those are already in the same article, despite the article being named Dulles Toll Road. And it seems stupid to split those two, being hopelessly intermingled. Maybe Dulles highway corridor or something equally invented but descriptive?--SPUI 03:46, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Potential Privatization of the Dulles Toll Road
I wonder if anybody reads the talk pages, but anyway, with today's news that Macquarie -- having just bought majority of the rights to the Greenway -- has entered with the consortium that wants to buy the Dulles Toll Road, should we start adding that breaking news to the VA 267 article? I know, I could do that myself, but I don't trust my writing abilities to start adding new sections or articles to Wikipedia. -- SterlingNorth 00:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
