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[edit] small service

I got a camera, and will try to fulfill requests for pictures related to Mexico, hoping an article or two will get improved. See commons:User:Drini/requests -- Drini 23:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

As a suggestion you might check Wikipedia:Requested pictures from time to time to see if any requests show up. Also you can always look for article pages on Mexico that are in need of a photograph. Thanks. — RJH (talk) 18:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
You can also check out Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Mexico. --Sherool (talk) 07:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article about Wikipedia Users

I am a freelance writer working on an article about the wide array of people who make Wikipedia their life, their passion, their pastime. Wikipedia “addicts” if you will. I’m looking for people just willing to tell their story of how they got sucked into the intellectual whirlwind that is Wikipedia; how you got started editing, how the obsession grew, and what you spend your time focusing on these days? Do you write articles from scratch? Is your main push toward one particular type of article? Do you patrol for typos and errors, or spend your time diligently fixing vandalism? Do you take part in various the “social aspects” of Wikipedia; engaging in animated discussions or decorating your user page with all sorts of internet memes? Do you participate in Esperanza, the Counter Vandalism Unit or other Wiki programs? Have you ever forced yourself to take a “Wikipedia break”? If so, what’s your 20/20 hindsight on the "obsession"? Basically I’m just trying to get an idea of what it’s like for various Wikipedia users, editors and "addicts."

This article is intended to be a light informational piece, nothing too heavy or controversial, just merely introducing readers to a subculture that they likely had no idea existed. So please don’t email me with your conspiracy theories, or your grudge against the Wikipedia hierarchy… unless it directly applies to your overall experience with the site. This article is about the USERS, not about the pros and cons of the site itself.

If you are interested in participating, please email me via my user page.

FFFearlesss 16:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Summary style violation?

Curious to hear what other editors think of History of the Alaska Aces. Ignoring for a moment the article's cleanup issues, this strikes me as way too much detail for Wikipedia's coverage of a minor league hockey team. Before I rush to propose a pare-and-merge, I thought I'd solicit second opinions. Thanks. | Mr. Darcy talk 04:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Sitting here in the UK it looks like way too much information for a minor Hockey team on the west coast of the states. However, to people who live in Alaska this might be quite important and they would welcome the information. My point is that our view on what's important and how much information should be carried in an article depends on our own personal interests and where we live. So I'd be careful about removing too much information. Having said that there does seem to be too much detail and in the process of cleaning up the article I'd look to cut back the information. Once this article has been cleaned up then I decide if it should be merged. --MarkS (talk) 09:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Failed experiments: A method for gaining cooperation

An effort to update the Kennedy Assassination articles using records from PBS and the 1998 work product of the federal Assassination Records Review Board has landed this editor in hot water with a group of editors who like the status quo.

Presently, the group, who believes no new information is needed, has asked this editor be banned for "harassing" them with "Flat Earth" information.

During the course of this arbitration, one of the editors who opposes change, claims he has tried to edit cooperatively. That is good, but his methodology appears flawed. The editor states:

“I don't like you. I think you're an obnoxious jerk.”

Later he explains to the arbitration panel that this:

“[I]s an attempt to find common ground between [the other editor] and myself and move forward with editing the article productively.” [1]


Back to the drawing board. RPJ 21:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to Wikipedia?

It works right now, but it looks so ugly. There's no bars on the left and top of the screen. What happened? I hope this change isn't permanent. Robocracy 07:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

It appears the same as always to me. — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
You may need to adjust or reset your browser; I haven't noticed any differences. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 09:12, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps you changed your skin, or the browser didn't load one of the stylesheets. The first issue can be fixed by Special:Preferences, the second by doing a hard reload, see Wikipedia:Bypass your cache. Hope that helps, Kusma (討論) 09:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:NOTLEX

Wikipedia:You Are Probably Not a Lexicologist or a Lexicographer is a new essay... please help improve!!! MPS 17:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I would if I knew what a Lexicologist was...--SonicChao talk 17:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
a dictionary writer MPS 18:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] shamless self promotion: Created a new essay, want others to read and comment on it:

I created an essay titled: Orthodoxy and heresy at Wikipedia. It is supposed to be somewhat provocative. I am looking for comments and improvements. Please feel free to comment on the essay talk page or make any changes you see fit. Thank you. --Jayron32 21:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selling out?

Does anyone know of any articles or discussions (here, or at WP:AN) about the risks of WP "selling out" or being exploited (be it by Jimbo or others)? I've seen a project page against the answers.com deal, but there was no real discussion there. Thanks. yandman 17:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

This topic comes up occasionally, see for example the "Wikimedia vs Wikipedia" thread on this version of WP:VPP. I think the bottom line is that although the risk of this happening is not actually zero it's extremely close to zero (and, even if it were to happen, someone else could recreate all the existing content at another website). -- Rick Block (talk) 18:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. yandman 18:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University students seek Wikipedia contributors for usage survey

I'm part of a team in a management & organizational analysis at the Stern School of Business at New York University. We selected Wikipedia as the subject of our final analysis, and are specifically interested in what drives people to participate in Wikipedia. To this end we've compiled an anonymous, 5-minute survey that we hoped the Wikipedia community would take part in, everyone from casual readers to editors to members of the Board.

It's available online at http://tramchase.com/wikipedia-survey

Please be as detailed as possible. Your participation is much appreciated!

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jamiew (talk • contribs).
One might perhaps be able to make inferences about the degree of cluefulness of the survey's designers from the fact that they link back to Wikipedia using the address wikipedia.com, not the more correct wikipedia.org (it's run by a noncommercial organization). *Dan T.* 00:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Not to mention the facts that a) the contribution here was not signed and b) the student(s) did not bother to create a userpage, which they could use to manage the communications around this matter to some degree. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Times Accessed

On the Ultimate Elder Scrolls Pages, I saw that there was a counter showing how many times a page has been accessed. Is this possible in anyway on wikipedia? Jabunga 08:42, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Nope. Zetawoof(ζ) 08:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
There is, however, wikicharts which gives this information for the top 100 most-viewed pages. Tra (Talk) 17:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One for the Road: Disambiguation

There are (at least) three separate articles titled "One for the Road" with different capitalizations:
One for the Road
One For The Road
One for The Road

That's a bit silly, but I have no idea how to fix it. Hopefully there is someone here that can change that.

KUTGW,
87.68.147.72 22:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

What to do about this is discussed at Wikipedia:Disambiguation. I've moved these to (respectively)
One for the Road (play)
One for the Road (short story)
One For The Road (album)
One for the Road is now a disambiguation page listing all of them, and the others redirect to the disambiguation page. I also fixed all the links to point to the right article. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Good job in creating the dab page. I reformatted the line items to more closely match prevailing style guidelines for dab pages, but that's a minor embellishment on your work. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:45, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Present tense

Just looking around a few articles and I notice that present tense is used far to often. For example looking at the page of Iffy Onuora, in one section it says he was the last Gillingham player to score a hat-trick. Problem being if the article isn't checked that statement will stay for year to come. In fact I'm not even sure it is true now. True or not I bet if a Gillingham player does score a hat trick this weekend that statement won't be revised. I think it's a big problem here in Wikipedia. Present tense shouldn't be used. The statement should read, up to (enter date) he was the last player to score a hot trick for Gillingham. Jimmmmmmmmm 23:49, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Not an uncommon problem, agreed. I was looking for template tags that specifically address this matter, as I thought they might exist, and the closest might be Template:update or Template:copyedit. Personally, I would be more concerned with the verifiability, notability and neutrality of content over grammatical rectitude, but that is coming from someone who is by no means a grammarian. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The vandal wars

Usually, I figure that (at least in high-traffic articles) we find and fix vandalism pretty quickly. However, I recently checked Uncle Tom's Cabin, certainly not an unimportant topic; no one had touched it in over 48 hours, but I found all of this to do just by way of fixing blatant vandalism: [2]. - Jmabel | Talk 23:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Apart from the "30 books" line, most of that doesn't look like vandalism to me, just poor Wikiformatting. Lankiveil 05:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC).

[edit] How do I delete pages

let me know pls. thx 24.16.19.181 21:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Deletion policy. What's the page in question? Also, if it's a page you created and no other editors have added content, put {{db-author}} at the top and an administrator will speedily delete it for you. | Mr. Darcy talk 22:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Lovingmelanie 24.16.19.181 22:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] is it acceptible

Is it acceptible to humorously vandalize pages that are gonna be marked speedy deletion anyway? For example lovingmelanie —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.16.19.181 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 26 November 2006.

No. | Mr. Darcy talk 22:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I am being bullied by admin User:FisherQueen

I am being bullied and I dont like it. First, this person bullied me into making me feel that my article are rubbish and the comments and feedback I got are not very nice. Please talk to me on my talkpage. Thanks --Hammersmith123 12:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

  • FisherQueen is not an admin. - Mgm|(talk) 12:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok I didnt know that, but otherwise, I am being bullied by this user. --Hammersmith123 12:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

  • You create articles like "The Effects of Eyesight while consuming Bacon" and then consider FisherQueen's (under the circumstances) polite warnings about vandalism bullying? You're not getting any sympathy here. --Roisterer 12:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
User:Hammersmith123 has been indefinitely blocked as a vandal-only account. Gwernol 13:05, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is it with Wikipedia and Hurricane articles?

--Ideogram 04:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Context goes here. --tjstrf talk 04:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Ideogram, tjstrf was pointing out that your comment requires context. Please provide some. | Mr. Darcy talk 04:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Everything I meant to say was said in the header. --Ideogram 04:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I can't tell if you're saying we have too many, or not enough, or that we have the right number but they all suck, or that we're vehemently opposed to articles about hurricanes, or that they're are best group of articles and you can't figure out why, or... CONTEXT! --tjstrf talk 04:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not saying. I'm asking. Which of those statements do you believe? --Ideogram 05:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Har har, Socrates. --tjstrf talk 05:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
That's not quite my intent, but that's a philosophical issue impossible to discuss here. --Ideogram 05:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
...I'll be going somewhere else now... If you ever feel like actually asking your question, I'm sure someone else will be able to help you. --tjstrf talk 05:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia has 7 featured lists about hurricanes and tropical storms. Whatever it is about Wikipedia and hurricanes, I hope it affects more pages. DurovaCharge! 05:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I'll second that! We have tens of thousands of articles that could benefit from that kind of quality and attention to detail. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 05:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Count a third vote for the condition that has affected our hurricane articles to spread to the entire encyclopedia! ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs) 16:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I do wish someone would standardize the Hurricane article names. --Ideogram 18:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Take it up on WP:TROP then, an outside view would be valued. I think there is an issue in the article names of the older storms (pre-1950). With more recent storms there is as much consistency as there can be; I really don't think Hurricane Katrina should be at Hurricane Katrina (2005) for example. Which article names do you have a problem with? (disclaimer: I'm a wikiproject member)--Nilfanion (talk) 18:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't aware there was a good reason for this. It's not important enough to me to pursue. --Ideogram 19:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Um, they are standardized. Retired tropical cyclones have their name on the "main", disambiguated article page; the rest of the articles have a year disambiguator on them. If there's only one occurrence of a name ever used, then that page gets the main article page as well. Also, storms that reach hurricane or typhoon intensity get their name from the basin in which they first reach that intensity; for example, Hurricane Ioke formed in the North-central Pacific Ocean, so it receives the "hurricane" designation for our purposes, in spite of it being known as Typhoon Ioke while on the Northwestern Pacific. Titoxd(?!?) 20:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A new wikipedia

just a suggestion...

why not create a site 'wikipedia people' dedicated to profiles of people? Firstly a great number of people would use it and secondly i think that it would stop a lot of vandalism on the general wikipedia site if people can write about themselves elsewhere...

cheers

A project like this has been considered before but the main problem is that if anyone could have a page about them put in, there would be problems with privacy breaches and a lack of acceptable sources for the information Tra (Talk) 17:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Why not just use user pages? -Elmer Clark 05:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah... that's kind of what your user page is for. Or a blog. Or your own personal website. If you want to tell the world about yourself, a userpage works fine. As does the thousands of other mediums for self-publication on the web. -Monk of the highest order(t) 14:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
It would ease the pressure of vanity pages. Maybe call it Wikiography? Who's Wiki Who? Any good project needs a good name. Robovski 00:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mena, Arkansas

Somebody put a really long section into the Mena, Arkansas article regarding a local Yu-Gi-Oh tournament, including multiple external links to its website. Now, I'm not familiar enough with that local area or the Yu-Gi-Oh scene to know for sure if it's notable enough to deserve mention, but certainly this seems to be excessive prominence and detail for what seems to be a very minor event. I removed it but was reverted, and don't want to get into a revert war over it; perhaps somebody else should take a look. *Dan T.* 02:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

My opionion ... This is too much as included. A couple of sentences noting that a 'festival' like this exists is more than enough, but the remainder should be off-loaded to it's own article, thence to be judged for survival via standing notability guidelines. The extended passage reads not unlike an advertisement by one of the tourney's organizers. Out-right deletion will lead to a revert war, so work at reducing it to it's notable core and create an article for the rest ... which you might even put into the deletion stream if you feel that is warranted. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't look like the anonymous IP who has obviously written this is happy to see it reduced to a notable core, he is persisting in re-inflating the section with plainly unencyclopaedic detail. Any other ideas other than revert warring on how we can solve this? Lankiveil 12:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC).
Banning always works. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 21:35, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I am also being Bullied by User:FisherQueen

He makes my articles feel rubbish. Taking the mick out of anything i do and i dont seem to be the only one complaing. I have no connection with Hammersmith123 but he's absoloutly right. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stone not Wood house (talk • contribs).

Either you are a sockpuppet - or you've had your Wikipedia account for less than 24 hours. Either way, it's a bit premature to be complaining about FisherQueen. SteveBaker 22:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible vandalism

On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculus, there's a jpeg, Human_Feces.jpg, exactly what it says. Not surprisingly, it doesn't fit its caption. Not sure how else to report it - and the possibility that this may have been done to other pages -, so I've done it here. 82.138.216.205 21:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Barbara Sutton

The vandalism has been reverted, and the perpatrator blocked. Thanks very much for bringing this to our attention. Also, note that you can revert vandalism yourself by selecting the previous, unvandalised, version in the article's Edit History, then Saving it. Thanks again : ) Doc Tropics 22:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What's the proper way to request people to help an Editor Review?

I admit I have one up for review, but I just realized that this otherwise great idea (general input and/or RfA pre-screening) isn't getting a whole lot of help. Would it be proper to start placing some requests on a few talk pages, or should I do that to people who regularly vote on RfAs? --Bobak 06:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History of deleted articles

Why is it that the history of deleted articles is removed too? It seems like no matter what, history should be preserved. Goaty 07:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Deleted articles are often deleted because they're false, defamatory, offensive, or otherwise libelous, which is why the history is hidden (to non-admins). yandman 08:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disturbing pictures.

I was trying to read the section on gangreen, but was immediately turned off by the images. Although they do fit well into the article, is there any chance wikipedia could have a feature that lets disturbing/graphic images be uncovered by a mouse click? To be quite honest I'm happy to read article on surgery without having to see surgical gore :o/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Swyp (talk • contribs).

But then who would say what is "disturbing"? Surgery? A penis? Muhammad? I'm afraid this would cause more problems than it would solve. What you can do is turn all images off on your browser. yandman 13:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Some sites allow ALL images to be turned off, through an option either in the users profile or with a cookie (I like the first better). Some people prefer plain text browsing. -sthomson 16:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Linkimage, which puts the image one click away from the article's main page, has been used very succesfully in articles containing graphic images of sex, sexual organs, and occassionly, human corpses. While linkimage is an excellent compromise for images that might be considered "disturbing", there hasn't been any consensus to apply it to images in medical articles. Doc Tropics 16:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, I didn't know about Template:Linkimage; interesting. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 05:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Also, many browsers provide the option of turning off automated image downloads, though this would be a generally undesirable personal shield to have to erect. This option was originally designed to facilitate rendering of graphics-heavy pages over slow internet connections. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 05:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Complaint Letter to Wikipedia

This is my complaint. Thank You --Martenal0001 11:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Ignoring for the nonce the supercilious verbage in the above discourse (diatribe?), I might suggest that you take a gander at Wikipedia talk:Expert retention, a more WP:CIVIL attempt at discussion; formulation of suggested recourse; and co-operative amongst concerned editors. In addition, if Wikipedia is not to your liking, perhaps you may wish to look elsewhere for ways in which to eke out your continued existence. In any case, I do wish you a plethora of brightly-hued sunrises : ) - jc37 11:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone mind if I move this to Martena'a userspace and replace it with a link? By the way, Martena, the most effective way of writing an essay is to structure the language around the ideas, not the other way around... yandman 12:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Considering that the account would seem to have been created for just this message, I think moving it to the user's userpage would be a good idea (and feel free to delete/not bother to move my comment). We may also wish to consider the user's latest two edits, for further action. - jc37 13:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
You do realize, of course, that once you remove all the highblown, badly over-idomized, and histronically grandeloquent phrasing that this message basically says "Waaah! You're bad!" I suggest the user spend several hours learning Simple English and learning to say what he means instead of demonstrating his ownership of a thesaurus. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 14:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
You do realize, of course, that his essay is a joke - probably created by a complaint letter generator? 131.107.0.73 23:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Done. yandman 14:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Erm, this looks like someone was playing with the Complaint Generator again. These seem to be popping up in a few places right now; the hallmark would be huge amounts of verbosity and absolutely no meaning, message or sense. Tony Fox (arf!) 17:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I stopped halfway through the first paragraph. Why bother, when they obviously are bloviating without any other purpose? User:Zoe|(talk) 21:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] West_Cheshire_College

Hey, I'm not sure where else to post this, so I came here. Could some of you guys add West_Cheshire_College to your watchlist? There's been unchecked slander sitting on the page since early July, and the author has continuously returned to add more. I'm fairly sure he's not done yet. Thanks. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 06:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the heads-up. | Mr. Darcy talk 15:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anyone up for an interview?

I need to write an "ethnographic reasearch essay" for my university english course. I thought wikipedia would make a great paper, but I need someone to interview...

If there are any takers, just email me and I'll send you a small list of questions.

Thanks!

ColinDC 03:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wikipedia:Template locations

What happened to the Wikipedia:Template locations project page? I see this page has been changed for the last time in July 2006. Should it be marked as historical? BTW, someone should close the debates there. --Eleassar my talk 10:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alt-V response

With Firefox, when I look at the history of a Wikipedia page and it doesn't do what I want it to do; it simply opens the view menu. Anyone know how to fix this so that I will have a keyboard shortcut for doing what I want when I am at a Wikipedia history page?? Georgia guy 17:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Shift+Alt+V seems to do it. Check this for more info:)—Slipgrid 04:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm assuming it's Firefox 2.0 you are asking about. It seems like access keys have always been a problem. But, I think that's how Firefox 2.0 is doing it.—Slipgrid 04:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An idea

Hello everyone,

I was using my gmail and while trying the google-talk feature, I asked myself whether or not it would be a good idea to have the same type of pop-up shown in wikipedia when someone clicks in a word within an article. I mean while you are reading something and there is a word you don't know with a link to another article, wouldn't it be nice if you just clicked and had an pop-up just like in gmail-googleTalk with a brief piece of information about that word just so you can continue reading without moving to the new article? Inside the pop-up could be the link for the full article besides the brief description. What do you guys think?

See ya

PS: I have just signed in, so I am not sure how I will be albe to see reponses. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ruminante (talk • contribs).

Popups will do this for you, where you can hover over a link and it will give you the first paragraph of the aticle it links to. Tra (Talk) 19:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Joke article?

Please check out Yukon Wild Ass. Thanks. Steve Dufour 23:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I found a source for it and removed a copyvio. Tra (Talk) 15:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. I see now that the animal was real. However I still wonder if it is the same species as the domestic donkey, as it says in the WP article but not in the original source article. Steve Dufour 23:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
The "problem" now seems to be solved.Steve Dufour 17:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] meta:Ku.wikipedia inquiry

There is an ongoing debate on meta about problems in ku.wiki. I hereby invite all experienced wikipedians to comment there. --Cat out 17:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal Spotted

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=199.120.31.19

Most of these contribs are juvenile. 136.176.88.82 00:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] linkspam botfeed

wikipedia-spam is getting pretty overwhelmed and needs more volunteers to help with reverting linkspam and vandalism. linkspamming external links has recently gotten pretty crazy, and the botfeed simply reports anything with a http://, as well as some other nifty obvious vandal triggers. we could really use the help; this is the associated talk channel - pop in. JoeSmack Talk 02:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggesting articles

2 Suggestions:

1. Please provide and publicize a way for users to propose new articles without having to log in and create them. Your volunteers can review this list and decide which are worthy, then either write them or create stubs.

2. Please add a new article for "Prima Nocta", the “right” of rulers to sleep with brides on their wedding night as referenced in “Braveheart”. If it is fictional then state that otherwise elaborate on it.


Thank you

WBFromNJ@aol.com

Wikipedia:Articles for Creation already exists to perform this function. Also, I'm positive we already have an article on that, seeing as I've read it before. Check your spelling. --tjstrf talk 04:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Droit de seigneur is, I think, what you're looking for in point #2. --Stormie 06:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Also Braveheart#Historical_accuracy - the two articles are somewhat contradictory and both are under-referenced. It's well-established that the practice did not exist in Scotland in the early fourteenth century: Mel Gibson even admits on the DVD commentary that this was one of the film's artistic liberties. Whether it existed at all is harder to determine. DurovaCharge! 21:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MOVIE HELP!

This is a long shot, but it's been bugging me for a while. There was this really good movie on tv a while back. The problem is that a while back was when I was 6-8, and I didn't care much about things like movie names unless it was a cartoon movie that I wanted to own. I think it was around then that I got tainted. That movie dealed with a lot of heavy stuff, and now that I'm old enough, I really want to know what movie it was. I don't know who played in it, or what the name is. I thought the kid was the kid from The Sixth Sense, but I was wrong. And he's aged horribly! And I'm not saying he looks old... He just... He used to be so cute!...Maybe it's the hair... But that's not the point...

All I know that may be helpful is that it might have been a "tv" movie, but I doubt it, because it was a true story. Everyone likes a good dark true story, so it was probably in theatres and on video and stuff.

The only thing I really remember is the story. Sort of.

This lady killed this man. The man may have or may not have been close to her or her family, I can't remember. But she killed the man because he raped/molested her son. Now I was around 8, so the concept of a man raping a boy was more than just a little scary. Still is. But I think I repressed it because I can't remember if that's why she did it. But she killed him for her son, and that was the only scenario that came into my mind that made sense. So she kills this guy, and she goes on trial and argues that it was all for him and stuff. And the female officer who actually looks fimiliar but I can't put my finger on it said to the lady "You're my hero!" It was nice. But what wasn't nice was that her son decides that somewhere close to the end of the movie is a good time to put a revolver to his head. He was supposed to be around my age!! Well, my age at the time. He puts in one bullet, and decides to play a nifty game of Russian Roulette by himself and on himself. Someone stops him, and they cry. Then that scene is over and he's watching TV and sees his mom's trial on(or at least I think so) and he turns off the tv with a look of pure evil in his eyes and the screen goes black. Writing comes up saying that he grew up t be a killer of some sort. Or I'm pretty sure that's what it said...

It's just really bothering me that I can't remember much from the movie. And as you can see the things that I do remember are blurry and only may be true. So... If this sounds fimiliar to anyone, then please tell me what movie it is!

Thanks for your time. I really hope that my typos are readable, because it's 4:01 and this insomniac is more than a little tired.

Try moving the question to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous and including some facts to help pin this down, such as the year and country where this aired. DurovaCharge! 20:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New users

Roughly what is the rate of new account creation here on the 'pedia? Chris cheese whine 09:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

About 5 a minute right now. yandman 10:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Rather randomly, in that list, I spotted a "DarthSquidward" near the top. Anyone up for a bit of blocking? Chris cheese whine 10:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Does it ever seem as if 400,000 of Wikipedia's accounts are owned by the same twelve people? DurovaCharge! 20:52, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, if you are couting Willy, Communism guy and Blu_Aardvark; probably yes. — Nearly Headless Nick {L} 13:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AFC

The backlog on this is turning into a real shame. Often over half the articles are completely ignored, even articles that appear to be legit; User:Kuru appears to be the only one, until me yesterday, making any regular contributions. Could more people take a crack on this regularly? It's WP:GNOME work if it ever existed, but it really needs to get done. It's absolutely awful form to tell people to create an article, and then ignore it. -Patstuarttalk|edits 05:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I guess I'm really surprised that someone with the expertise to document the article that they want created wouldn't just create themselves a login and do it themselves. Weird. I'll take a crack at helping out though. SteveBaker 14:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I just found out about it too. But, weirdly enough, sometimes the articles actually are pretty well written, with categories, wikilinks and all (perhaps they're using another article as a copy-and-paste template). Patstuarttalk|edits 14:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aggresive User

At of this moment I am having problems with a rather agressive user in the Wrong Turn 2 article. is there anything I can do against his agressive behaviour? Jamesbuc

Which user, and what exactly does the aggressive behavior include? If you can show us diffs (that is, specific edits by the user in question), it will help us work out the problem. Thanks. | Mr. Darcy talk 20:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question about vandalism

i've found something lewd on a page , how do i contact someoen to fix it? and its only there every 5th refresh or so, it'll be there then i'll refresh and it'll say something else, but if i come back its there again, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.182.240.75 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 6 December 2006.

What page? Sounds like garden-variety vandalism. | Mr. Darcy talk 20:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Evening from WikiCast!

Hi.

I am involved with WikiCast , and would like to say hello

If anyone is intrigued as to what WikiCast is see #Wikicast on freenode. ShakespeareFan00 22:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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