Talk:Victory ship

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One of the many victory ships built in North Vancouver in world war two served as a fleet auxiliary with both the british and the canadian navies. Its stern is now in the North Vancouver museum. The british called it the Flamborough Head. Not every navy names a ship after one of its defeats.82.38.97.206 09:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)mikeL

Well, the US does when it can inspire people to fight - there is a USS Pearl Harbor and USS Bataan. Identity0 22:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Added link to Flamborough Head. What was the hull number of this Flamborough Head ship? I don't see it in either the list of Liberty ships or Victory ships. The USAT Pearl Harbor was a "Liberty" ship, as naming it the USAT Pearl Harbor Victory might have seemed incongruous. I've looked over the list of Victory ships and noted they are named after cities, universities or colleges, countries, and even companies (e.g. "Alcoa Victory"). The only one in the list I see that is named after a "defeat" is the Alamo Victory. That was a victory for Mexico but not for Texas. After the war, some of these ships were renamed, e.g. USAT Maritime Victory was renamed SS Pvt. Fredrick C. Murphy. Murphy was a Medal of Honor recipient. Incidentally the Murphy was recently sold and is being scrapped this summer (2006) in Brownsville, Texas. Mfields1 23:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Numbers

The numbers in the list of types don't add up. No mention of AP5 and AP7.

Following up: Are the VC2-S-AP5 type, Haskell class attack transports (APA-117 - APA-247), considered Victory ships or not? If they are, there are still two of them at James River. Either way the numbers are awkward.--J Clear 22:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The USMM and NPS google hits include the AP5 as a Victory ship, the VC2 bit seems to be the discriminator. Also we're already listing AP5s on the List of Victory ships. Also I don't think there was such a beast as SS Lauderdale Victory, it was USS Lauderdale (APA-127). The article actually does account for the AP5, which are the 117 Attack Transports.--J Clear 22:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forts and Parks

Would also like to see the Forts and Parks clarified, perhaps in their own section. Seems some of them were US built, some purchased, others bare boat chartered, by Britain. And not all the Forts were the Victory design, most seem to be a British Liberty design.

[edit] "Unlike their predecessors they were oil fired"

The Liberty Ship article table says "Two oil fired boilers,". It says the English ordered coal fired ships. David R. Ingham 02:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Since the statement was either wrong, as you point out, or refers to some other ambiguous, non-Liberty, predecessor, I trimmed the first three words off the sentence.--J Clear 03:20, 6 August 2006 (UTC)