Talk:Valentich Disappearance

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Creapy! This is creeeeepy!

  • I am uncertain as to how an entry such as yours is rational discussion of the Frederick Valentich Incident, but forthrightly conceded is that the episode remains one of the best-documented and least-explicable cases in the annals of investigation into unexplained aerial phenomena. --Chr.K. 00:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

"Metal shrieking noises after the unknown craft hovering above yours" is perfectly normal and shouldn't be a reason to panic,its probably just rats. Or maybe misguided weather balloons.

Indeed. And perhaps you would make a killing in stand-up comedy. --Chr.K. 04:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Additions

Added two external links, one to The Valentich Mystery by John Auchettl, and the other, perhaps more engaging, to the Frederick Valentich Accident report by www.ufologie.net. --Chr.K. 02:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Changing the "so-called" wording, since what else is it supposed to be? His completely vanishing from any societal knowledge of his whereabouts openly qualifies his disappearance as a genuine one. --Chr.K. 10:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

"More mundane explanations have been put forward (that Valentich ... played a prank before committing suicide by deliberately crashing his Cessna), but none of these explanations is entirely satisfactory" - How is him playing a prank before committing suicide not a satisfactory explanation? It seems like a perfectly plausible explanation to me. A prank gone wrong or a pre-suicide prank is much more believable than the other possibilities.

If you'd bother to do any study of the material at all, you'd know that there were plenty of other sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena in the days leading up to, as well as following, 21 October 1978 in the southern Australian region, with the day of Valentich's disappearance being the most intense day of "activity"; also, if you'd check, you'd understand that an a plane like a Cessna 182 would leave behind some trace near where it had gone down, instead of all investigation, up to the degree of sounding of the seas in a 200-mile radius of his last reported location, yielding nothing. To put it another way, if it was a successful suicide attempt, then I'm sure the United States military would love to get their hands on his methods, for use of molecular disintegration of a given target. --4.224.201.107 10:54, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
On further thought, I'll put up a Wikisource page giving the public-domain detailed report issued by the Australian Department of Transport, for the perusal of any and all. --4.224.201.107 10:56, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Done. --Chr.K. 12:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1978 Sightings

I add this comment as "one who was there". In October 1978, my family and I lived in Hobart Tasmania. Indeed, in the weeks that followed the incident my father and I were two of many who saw lights over this part of Australia. I can well remember the incident and a wave of other sightings that were reported in the newspapers at the time (The Murcury). For what it is worth, when considering this incident, you should not think of what happened to Valentich in isolation. There were sightings of lights and objects over S. Australia, the Bass Strait and New Zealand (i.e. the same geographical region) during the later half of 1978 and on into 1979. Some of these were even filmed and photographed, this together with witness statements must make these sightings one of the best reported UFO flaps to have taken place. With this in mind, I think that the Valentich dissappearence is one of the most credible instances of a UFO encounter, particularly since it may have been witnessed from the ground at the same time. As to an explination- UFO equals Unidentified Flying Object i.e. something given the circumstances we cannot then explain. It does not have to mean "little green men".

Bass Strait and NZ are in "the same geographical region"? They are actually further apart than London and Athens. Moriori 06:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
And as such, are comparable to the UFO waves that have occasionally occurred over Europe. The region in question is Oceania in general. --Chr.K. 22:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
As a complete aside, I need to thank you for being one of the most sensible commentators on the subject of unexplained aerial phenomena I've ever seen. --Chr.K. 12:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quality and Importance Rating

I'm not a member of the Australia Wikiproject, but I'll call for the classification of the Valentich Disappearance as B quality and Mid-importance, based on the following two factors: 1) In quality, the information presented here is decent, but not to the degree of detail that is given at several websites. With some changes, it could be excellent, but those changes would have to be numerous, and bringing in much more detail to the matter' 2) In importance, the Valentich Disappearance is easily one of the most well-documented cases of interaction with the unexplained, and stands as a pillar to scientific study of its field being no laughing matter. I hope I don't greatly offend many with my audacity at "deciding" where it fits in, at least for now. --75.2.22.184 05:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I agree - Vufors 07:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The man

Is there any information on the man who dissapeared available? Was he suicidal? M2K E 23:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll research it. --Chr.K. 13:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yes, who was Frederick Valentich?

There's been an awful lot written about his disappearence, but, where is the article on Frederick Valentich? Moriori 07:43, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

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