Talk:Uwe Kils

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The subject of this article, Uwe Kils, has edited Wikipedia as Kils (talk • contribs).

This article was nominated for deletion on 2005-05-25. The result of the discussion was keep.

[edit] Sources?

I removed most of the content because we have no source for it at present other than Kils' own website, which is not sufficient for it to be considered reliable and verifiable. It is still available at User:Oceanographer/Uwe Kils. If someone would like to research the subject and find independent confirmation for the material, they are welcome to do so. --Michael Snow 20:46, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Well, one thing we can do is to dig up his publications. That may then serve as corroborating facts for the statements made in the original article and at User:Kils/testimony. (Note that I have no reason to believe that the publication list was faked in any way. It's just that we need independent sources for verification.)

Found so far:

• KILS U 1993 Formation of Micropatches by Zooplankton-Driven Microturbulences Bulletin of Marine Sciences 53(1) 160-169 (1993). Cited here an here.
• KILS U 1995 The ATOLL Laboratory and other Instruments Developed at Kiel. U.S. GLOBEC NEWS Technology Forum Number 8: 6-9, also see [1] and [2].
• THETMEYER H, KILS U 1995 To see and not to be seen: the visibility of predator and prey with respect to feeding behaviour. Mar Ecol Prog Ser 126: 1-8, also see [3].

Also helpful would be citations of Kils' works. In Kils' case, this even is pretty essential, for—judging from the two I found—he often self-references (i.e. references own earlier papers). (Note: this is not a critique. Can happen if one works on a niche subject.) If some of these publications contain a short "about the author" abstract (not uncommon with scientific publications, occurs in quite a few journals), we might use that as a starting base. Even if such abstracts are typically written by the authors themselves, they tend to be factual and not too much overhyped. Lupo 07:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

A very brief blurb about him is at [4]. Lupo 09:05, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

He did receive the Heinz Maier-Leibnitz Prize in 1979: [5]. Lupo 13:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

All right, Uwe, I've given this a try. Please note:

• Wikipedia is not a link farm. An extlink to the Institute für Meereskunde may make sense in the extlk section of Gotthilf Hempel, but hardly here. Generally, we don't clutter text with extlinks: if something is really important, write an article about it and link to that (using an internal link, not "http://en.wikipedia.org/ ...").
• Remember that articles need to be verifiable. I consider your publications evidence of your work, and anybody who thinks otherwise is indeed—as Tannin said elsewhere— a fruitcake. I also consider your images from Antarctica proof enough that you've been on that expedition.
• The few phrases labelled as "statements by Uwe Kils" are currently unverified. Birthplace and date could be verified by contacting the Zivilstandesamt (or whatever it is called) in Flensburg, but frankly said, I again see no reason why this shouldn't be true. And if you're really retired, I suppose we'll find a statement of Rutgers soon enough.

Lupo 08:01, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Two more things: this article is not the place for a complete list of publications. If you like, place that on ecosocope.com, which is linked from here. Likewise for the "Preference petition", which seems to be a bit dated anyway. Lupo 08:04, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and of course feel free to correct any mistakes I might have introduced. But please do so in a way that it can be verified using third-party data. Lupo 11:44, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I removed this sentence:

Work at Rutgers continued on non-intrusive underwater imaging at the LEO15 system.

The reason is that the information about the LEO, such as the external links at that article, doesn't really mention Kils in connection with it (for example, he's not one of the faculty listed on the university's website for the project). --Michael Snow 03:51, 31 May 2005 (UTC)