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[edit] school india

Hey amigo. Yes I saw it was a stub and thought I would categorize and detail it a bit. With your sub-headings I figure you will expand it. Just helping!!!

James Janderson 10:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Type it in on yahoo or google search engine. You could probably gather bits together to write a good article. How this helps. Where are you? James Janderson 10:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep up the good work then and start articles on all the schools in that area!! Remember to categorize and wikify your articles though. All the best in India James Janderson 10:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Bro is the syntax of temoplate in html?

Actually, I copied it from the Porn Stars WikiProject... I haven't actually got a clue what most of the things in it do. --JD[don't talk|email] 14:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Do these schools deserve articles on wikipedia?

Yeah, I will back the articles in case of an AFD. As about my new job, it's just the training period now... and I am enjoying it. utcursch | talk 15:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Company profile

Thanks for updating that article! You might correct the external link. Again, I appreciate your work on it! Jokestress 16:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re : Anti-Feminism

What is the exact name of the article (Case sensitive)? I went through my deletion log, but did not find any record of that article. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 08:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your helpme request

You placed a {{helpme}} on your user page, but you didn't seem to be asking a question. That particular template is akin to an SOS signal, asking for help from other users. Since I couldn't find your question, I took the liberty of removing it from your page. If you did need some help, feel free to add the template back onto your talk page with a question, or to just ask me at my own talk page. Apologies for the intrusion, and happy editing! Luna Santin 11:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Outside my area of expertise, unfortunately. Have a look at Wikipedia:Requests for translation and see if there's anything to help you there, be it people our resources. Good luck. Luna Santin 11:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Please only use {helpme} on your talk page. You question: {helpme|need english translation of this sentence in Dutch:Kelly’s grootste doorbraak maakt ze als deelneemster van Big Brother the Battle (derde editie, 2001).}.
Dutch: "Kelly’s grootste doorbraak maakt ze als deelneemster van Big Brother the Battle (derde editie, 2001)"
English: "Kelly's biggest break through came as a participat of "Big Brother - the Battle" (third edition,2001)"
Thanks to GerardM for the translation.--Commander Keane 11:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is cellspacing?

I know it probably seems a very stupid question but there a few things I need help with. FIrstly, I need to make some templates for the project (WP:NOIDASCHOOLS) I am going to start soon but I have never tried making one myself. Since I want to make them myself, I just opened the editing option of one of the templates {{Big Brother project}} to see how its done. One of the things they have specified there is cellspacing and I have no idea what this is , atleast in the wikipedia jargon and I guess otherwise also. I hope you can help me with it.

Unitedroad 10:39, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to reply. Cellspacing is an HTML property that indicates the distance between sections of a table -- basically, the thickness of the dividing lines. --Carnildo 18:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Castes and Tribes of the Punjab

Hi. I am asking your opinion on this festering dispute that has developed between myself and Satbir Singh since the past few days.

The facts of the matter are like this:

I created a template called Castes and Tribes of the Punjab with a view to studying the caste and tribal groups that exist in what was the ancient Punjab region (Punjab (Pakistan), Punjab (India), Haryana and Himachal Pradesh). My intention, unlike any Ibbetsons, Todds or Cunninghams was to study these groups from a purely anthropological perspective sans any controversy so that people visiting this portal would get to know about the huge mosaic that my province (I am a Punjabi) is.

I started with a few groups. But soon enough the groups began to increase. For the sake of brevity, I grouped them under Categories. As the template evolved, I learnt not to name any category speculatively.

The final categories were:

Brahmin groups. Dalit groups. Jat clans. Khatris and other groups. Rajput clans. Shaikhs and other groups. Tarkhans and other groups. Others (groups to which i could not attribute any specific status). In the last (Others), I also included groups such as Kamboj, Khasa, Ahir and Gujjar. However, Satbir Singh separated them and bunched them under a new category called "Surviving Ancient Kshatriya Tribes".

Since that day, a revert war has been on between the two of us. According to Satbir, these groups such as the Ahirs (the ancient Abhiras), the Gujjars (Gurjaras), the Khas (the Khasas), the Kamboj (Kambojas) and Yadav (Yadavas) are ancient Kshatriya tribes mentioned in a number of ancient Sanskrit texts.

My own personal opinion is that all this is true. However, some points must be noted:

The Varna System is a topic subject to a lot of controversy and dispute. I have been noticing this in recent weeks. Pages such as Khatri, Rajput, Kayastha and Bhumihar have been vandalised because many people don't agree with the Varna status of these groups. If the Ahirs, the Gujjars, the Khasaa, the Kambojas and the Yadavas are Kshatriya groups, then so are the Rajputs, Jats, Khatris, Tarkhans et al. I did not create a category entitled "Kshatriya groups" in the first place because I knew I was treading on soft ground. All the above mentioned castes claim Kshatriya status. But we all know, how disputable these claims are. The rigmarole that is the Varna System is known to us all. For example, the Jats, who in the Vedic and Mythological periods were workers should be placed in the Shudra Category under the Varna System. But many Jats clans consider themselves the equal and perhaps the superior of Rajputs as adhrents of Kshatriya Dharma. My own caste, the Khatris and related groups such as Aroras claim Kshatriya status. But we have seen on the Khatri page as to what became of that claim. Ahirs, Gujjars and Yadavs are considered to be OBCs in most Indian states inspite of their being the descendants of ancient Abhiras, Gurjaras and Yadus. There is a controversy raging on the Yadav page presently if I am not wrong, on the status of the caste. Taking all these points into consideration and being aware of the fact that there are users (say Sanjay Mohan and Holywarrior, who have caused great disputes on various caste pages, I proposed categories such as "Kambojs and related groups" (Kamboj, Kamboja, Kamboh and Khasa) and "Gujjars and realted groups" (Ahirs, Gujjars, Dhangars and Bakarwals). But Satbir Singh and another user named Sze cavalry01 objected to it. They returned to "Ancient Kshatriya Tribes". I did a little compromise by making it "Ancient Warrior Tribes", which I later realised would also be POV. Therefore, I changed it to just "Ancient Tribes" - A completely unspeculative term.

However, Satbir Singh does not agree. He calls it a "gross suppression of known historical facts", "a crime against history" and "a political agenda" and has termed me a "Vandal". I have put forward my points. But both of us are yet to agree.

I have fighting a revert war with him for almost a week now. Have a look at the template's history page and Satbir Singh's talk page to get a complete idea of the whole fracas.

This fight has become downright silly. I surely don't expect myself to spend my time, money and energy on such a silly matter. And I am sure neither does the other party.

As of now, Administrator Shresth has protected the page on my request. He has also asked that the dispute be discussed on the talk page of the template and a consensus be reached. Yourself and anybody else you know who has an interest in the Punjab, please come and express your opinion on the talk page.

Regards. Rajatjghai 19:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unencyclopedic

It means it's not the type of thing which belongs in an encyclopedia. If you want to illustrate the article with an image, it shouldn't include inappropriate watermarked text. Jenny Wong 11:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you trying to make a point? The way in which you are asking these questions comes across as particularly snidy - please don't. Images with watermarked images don't belong here - it's community consensus. If you don't believe me, please ask at the Village Pump. Oh, and please use some common sense, too - do you seriously believe that such watermarking is good for a Wikipedia image? Jenny Wong 12:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Harisu

Sorry. That actually wasn't what I deleted; I moved it up to the first paragraph. The part I deleted was something to the effect of "she's one of Korea's brightest stars" or something and she so isn't. She's more notorious for her sex change than for anything else. SKS2K6 04:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your helpme request

Hi there. You put a {{helpme}} request on your home page, but don't seem to be asking a question. What can we do for you? Waitak 15:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

If you're trying to establish that someone's birthdate was November 23, 1952, their own website would be an outstanding reference. But your problem isn't proving that she can toot her own horn.

That page is up for deletion because she's an actress that nobody recognizes, either by name or appearance. According to IMDB, she was in two Las Vegas episodes as Jennifer in 2006 and two Las Vegas episodes as Lisa in 2005. The producers probably figure nobody would remember her, and although I saw all those episodes, I don't remember either Lisa or Jennifer.

In order to establish that she's notable, I'd suggest pointing out that sites have taken note, by using footnotes linking to 15 or 20 websites. If the citations all point to her own site, that's not going to help your case. I'd recommend using footnote style citations[1] inline with the references at the bottom of the page like this:

  1. ^ http://somesite.com/some/url.html

The fact that there are so many, from so many different sites, is going to pop out, and she is going to look more worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. (If you don't understand how I coded that citation, click on edit and take a look.)

Good luck. Are you just a fan, or do you actually know her?

BTW, the earth is rounder than a golf ball is. ClairSamoht 16:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Danielle Foxxx

It's certainly better, but take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (pornographic actors). I don't think she fits any of the criteria, with the possible exception of "Performer has been notable or prolific within a specific genre niche," which would be in this case transsexual porn. However, if that list of sixteen films is her complete filmography, then she does not qualify under that either, as sixteen films is not really considered "prolific" by porn standards, especially when we're talking about a niche as big as transsexual porn. If you can find a source proving that she fits one of those criteria, then I suspect the speedy deletion will fail. Otherwise, she will be deleted as non-notable. Regards, Elmer Clark 10:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

You should definitely add the information about the award nomination and the breakthrough HD film, with sources. I will withdraw the nomination when that is done. Also, regarding the Google results: Only 425 of them are unique hits. -Elmer Clark 10:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that's definitely an acceptable reference for the HD movie. Make sure you put it in the article right after you mention the movie like this: [1], and do likewise for the reference about the award nomination. -Elmer Clark 10:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I was able to find you a list of 2004 AVN awards nominees here, but Danielle Foxxx does not appear to be on the list. Was she in one of the nominated movies, perhaps? If so, go ahead and mention which one on her page and use that as a source.
Either way, I think the HD movie is enough to show notability. You did a very good job of improving the article, by the way - if only more editors would respond to a Speedy Delete tag that well! :) -Elmer Clark 10:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and the way I look out for potential Speedy Delete candidates is by doing occassional checks of Special:Recentchanges and taking a look at the newly-created articles. This helps nip spam, etc in the bud. -Elmer Clark 10:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Danielle Foxxx's Yahoo Group

Should I add Danielle Foxxx's yahoo group run by her in the exnternal links section on the wikipedia article on her?

I would add it, as long as it is directly connected to her. talk to JD wants e-mail 16:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, almost forgot; don't add the link is registration is required, that goes against WP:EL. talk to JD wants e-mail 16:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kilt-wearing Wikipedians

Mostly I found Doc's premature closing of the nomination to be problematic. You can try recreating the category with the proper nomenclature (category:Kilt-wearing Wikipedians, probably) and see if people support it. Not clear what will happen, though.--Mike Selinker 15:37, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I altered the nomenclature of your category:Kilt wearing wikipedians to the correct category:Kilt-wearing Wikipedians. I don't know if someone will nominate it again, but I'll support it if that happens.--Mike Selinker 15:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm from Seattle.--Mike Selinker 15:58, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Unitedroad/Experiments2

Hi, I've moved your article there as you said on its talkpage. Please feel free to let me know if you have any problems. —Xyrael / 20:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help?

I see you have the helpme tag on your userpage. Is there something I can help you with? -- Merope 13:51, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, you put the request in the {{helpme}} tag. In short, no, the deletion rules concerning articles are not the same for userspaces. However, that is not to say that userspaces can't be deleted. They fall under Miscellany for deletion; you can read more about it there. However, if you think a userpage should be deleted, it is best to discuss it with that user to see if he/she can't change the page to make it more acceptable. I hope that answers your question; let me know if you need anything else! -- Merope 13:55, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help me

How do I format the lyrics on Glory Glory Man United article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Unitedroad (talk • contribs) .

Well, lyrics are generally frowned upon on Wikipedia, unless the song is old enough that its copyright no longer applies. Could you perhaps link to the article? Ryūlóng 07:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Link to the article as in? Unitedroad 07:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where the page you listed is. If you could provide it, that would be helpful. Ryūlóng 07:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I have found it and discerned that it should not feature lyrics, as the song is too recent to be in the public domain. Ryūlóng 07:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Well I am not sure it is copyrighted though. If it isn't then maybe it can be still included here? Unitedroad 07:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, it still is not in the public domain, so to say. Other editors may feel the same way that I do, that the lyrics have no real place in the article due to the relative newness of the song. I would just leave it as is, or perhaps ask at the help desk. Ryūlóng 07:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kastor

Well, just as a comment, Kastor has a very minor role in The Fall of the Trident. He is, of course, the main character in The New Atlantis, but the New Atlantis is a lot shorter than The Fall of the Trident, so if you catch my drift, his article will be shorter. But about your comment, yeah I think he should have his own article.ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 01:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

What's your plan for the article? I mean the layout and info and stuff like that.ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 02:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah it's fine with me.ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 00:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Secondary Schools in Noida

Hello. I am writing to tell you that the project metnioned above is now listed at the list of projects at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/History and society, in the education division. The final location may change if such is indicated; right now I'm just getting the lists together. I would also like to tell you that it might be a very good idea if you added your name as a member of the project. Right now the project has no members, and that could technically qualify it for deletion. If you would want any help in formatting the project page, the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide may be able to assist you. I had nothing to do with writing it, so I'm not trying to draw attention to my own work by referring you to it. Best of luck with the project. Badbilltucker 22:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Copy of your response:

Hi bro thanks for the info. I will join the project you told me about from today itself. I wanted to know whether I am allowed to save a copy of page for the project I have started on my userpage. Sometimes the admins can be weird (no offense if you're one). I hope you can help me with an advice on this. Unitedroad 10:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC) I regret to say that from the phrasing I can't be entirely sure whether you are referring to the project listed above or not. I don't think anyone can really object what you put on your user page provided it is not inherently objectionable material (hard porn, excessively graphic violence, etc.). So by all means save a draft of the project page there. Generally, the easiest and probably most successful way of seeing whether a new project is one other editors would want to join is to create a draft or description of it on your user page and then list the proposed project at Wikipedia:WikiProject/List of proposed projects. If there are enough people who support the project to make you think it is viable, then by all means give it a proper page outside of your own user page. Otherwise, if you find out that it would be basically just a one-man show, you could revise the "draft" project page to just list the articles you think should be created or expanded or whatever and let any other existing WikiProjects that deal with the material even peripherally know that those articles need to be worked on. By the way, I am not an administrator. My obvious love of almost endless run-on sentences makes me think my grammar might not be good enough for the post. I hope that this helps answer your question a little though. Badbilltucker 15:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help inquiry

"Is the Wave Cinemas chain of multiplexes of Noth India notable by wikipedia standards?" one moment, I'll find out for you. Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 07:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Returns only 15 google hits, so that would be a no from what I can see. [2], also note that removing "north india" and replacing it simply with "india" returns only 466 hits [3], so in all likeliness, no. Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 07:49, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I suggest you compare the chain against the criteria listed at Wikipedia:Notability (companies and corporations) as well.--  Netsnipe  ►  07:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Is the Wave Cinemas chain of multiplexes of Noth India notable by wikipedia standards?

Depends. Provide some sources - official website at least, news reports, too; find out how many theaters they have, what their annual profit is, how long they've been in business. If these are large enough, or if the news reports show they are well-known for something else, then yes. Otherwise, no. It all comes down to sources. And, for the future, put the {{helpme}} tag on your talk page. Hope this helped! JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Getwiki

Yes, let's take this to deletion review. They shouldn't get away with that. In the meantime, I'm going to undelete the thing, as there was NO consensus to delete it. David Cannon 10:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not too sure myself what the procedure is, but I will find out. Meanwhile, I have taken the liberty of undeleting the article. It's back - for now. I do know that it is NOT wikipedia policy to delete articles unless the vote to do so was decisive. Angela Beesley, for example, tried to have her article expunged. I think a majority did vote to delete it, but it fell well short of the consensus threshold. Deleting an article on a 50 percent vote is an abuse of administrative powers. Whoever did this should be told that such behaviour is unbecoming. Anyway, I'll look into how to get the deletion review going. David Cannon 12:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
this should go to deletion review since it was contrary to consensus see also Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 September 22#Finger_Lakes_Christian_School also closed as delete by the same person with no consnesus Yuckfoo 21:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Induslogic >>> GlobalLogic

I've made some radical changes (1+1)

By the way, are you working in GlobalLogic?

--pavlosh 13:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Kelly_-_one_of_the_most_beautiful_women_on_earth.png

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[edit] picture on Kelly van der Veer Article

Hi Abu , Kelly sent me the picture through email herself when I asked her to send me one for the article. She did not specify exactly what rights she is allowing for this picture. I emailed her again yesterday after the last time she replied was the day next to her birthday, 6th May 2006. She has not replied back yet. Now tell me what do you think I should do with the picture. I hope she does reply back to my last mail in which I have asked her to release it into the public domain. The rest is your call , hope to hear from you soon. If this picture if off WP , I am leaving for good. Unitedroad 11:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

See WP:COPYREQ for instructions on how to ask for an image to be released under a free licensing. In the case you don't get a positive reply, just leave the image as it it, and some admin eventually will delete it. --Abu Badali 12:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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