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Would anyone care of I added some local anecdotes to the page? For some reason I am compelled to comment on how the ENB building is often referred to as the fishbowl.--24.92.194.173 06:45, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The glass windows are a good clue...Dominick 10:30, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The Magnolia Towers section looks like it was palgarized from the college newspaper (The Oracle). Someone check into this or I will delete it.

I had heard about it while I was an RA from Dr. Tom Kane, who deals with university housing. Check with the office to see if there is literature on it that can be cited. I am flattered that you think my writing is so good that it must have been plagiarized, though! ;) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 17:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The upcoming Chemistry building has plenty of glass windows and even an area circular in design. Also, the Education building already has this feature, yet I still think the ENB will remain the fishbowl. It's not just the glass windows, but the kind of glass used (it's those weird glass cubes/building blocks you can barely see through) and the fact there is typically a crowd in there, much like a bunch of fish inside a fishbowl.--24.92.194.173 00:07, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I was there when it opened, as a Engineering student. It was the fishbowl from the beginning. Of course I also called it the Palace of Engineering. Many engineering classes were held across campus in Cooper hall (Arts building) where attractive girls would frequent, interrupting the mostly male Engineering students waiting on classes. I Referred to that as the "Babe Breezeway", and across the quad as the "Business Bunker". Dominick 02:39, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I say go for it... add this stuff to the article. Sekicho 13:02, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)

There are too many important things missing from the article. Student culture is one aspec that wikipedia can excel in. Two examples. One is the spelunker club, where a studetn had to go down into the poorly locked and sealed bomb shelter under the dorms. The "hill" was one campus hot spot. I may add articles about it. Before the Marshall center was expanded, there was a circle of hedges about the hill behind the then Student Center. Many would go there to talk, canoodle, have harder beverages, or smoke. Come to think of it, the same things happened in the bomb shelter. Hill activities were pretty much ignored by the universty police, and administration. Many suspect that the Marshall center expansion was made to demolish this haven, and many students participated in a "save the Hill" campaign. Dominick 13:18, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

This article needs a revamp and quick. The Honors College needs to be mentioned since it is fairly new (established 2002 by Judy Genshaft)...I'm not biased at all. Really! :-)

But seriously, the major rebuilding of the campus, and the addition of buildings, should be of importance in the article. I can try to write more than that but I'm fairly new so it'd take me a while to get to know places and people. Mike H 21:08, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)

Honors isn't entirely new -- before it was a college, it was just known as the Honors Program, and dates from at least the late 1980s. Tregoweth 22:29, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)
I am aware. Mike H 22:45, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Al-Arian

I've moved the following material from Sami Al-Arian, that is more abt the institution than abt him --Jerzy(t) 07:32, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)

The American Association of University Professors indicated that it would formally censure USF if Al-Arian was fired, a move that would have likely dissuaded many top professors from teaching at USF. On January 6, 2003, the United Faculty of Florida, the union representing Al-Arian and other USF professors, filed a formal grievance against Genshaft, alleging that continuing to bar Al-Arian from the campus was tantamount to continued disciplinary action without due process, that the disciplinary actions were a violation of Al-Arian's academic freedoms, and that the university had discriminated against Al-Arian due to his ethnic background.
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The AAUP indicated that they did not feel due process had been followed in Al-Arian's case, but chose to condemn, rather than formally censure, USF at their 2003 annual meeting.

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I would up date the logo picture to match the new view, but I am unsure as to its legality. Chotchki 05:13, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merger of The Oracle

Per the VfD consensus at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The Oracle Newspaper, information about The Oracle has been merged to this article. --TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:49, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New logo

I uploaded and want to add Image:Southflorida_logo.gif to the article, but I'm not entirely sure when the logo was introduced. I believe it was in 2003, but I don't want to assume. Anyone know? --Vyran 14:13, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

You're correct. This page says "The Bull is the university’s athletic mascot. The set of athletics symbols shown below were developed in 2003 and are are used to identify USF athletic programs and merchandise." Mike H (Talking is hot) 07:36, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Centre Gallery

Following the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centre Gallery, I merged the material from Centre Gallery into this article. You probably want to edit it a bit to preserve the flow of the article. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 22:30, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I've removed this material as the CG really doesn't deserve much more than the brief mention it gets in the pre-existing section on the museum and other galleries on campus. Gamaliel 22:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Fine with me. I hadn't seen that it was already mentioned; I didn't read through the History section. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 23:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

THere are so many things that could be added to this article, like the Empty Keg, when the university's center was the University Center. Dominick (ŤαĿĶ) 18:05, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Then do it. Mike H (Talking is hot) 18:48, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] USF fatal shooting

As one of the biggest news events to come out of USF since Al-Arian, this should be noted in the article, but I don't know where to place it. Anyone want to help me? Mike H. That's hot 22:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

k, placed it under "housing" since it happened in the housing areas. Mike H. That's hot 00:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Is this really that important? People have died on campuses before. Gamaliel 01:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Considering the media response to the shooting, and the fact that it hasn't happened HERE in over a decade, I'm in favor of keeping it. It's a current issue right now. Maybe down the line we should remove it, but not now. Mike H. That's hot 01:27, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UCF/USF Enrollment

The enrollment numbers for the University of Central Florida were incorrect in some areas of its page on Wikipiedia; the correct enrollment number for UCF, as stated on the official Facts About UCF webpage, is 45,090, placing UCF as the seventh largest university in the nation and 2nd largest in the state of Florida, and USF the third in the state. In light of this, I have made the appropriate changes on this page concerning its ranking as well as all other pages affected. Prototime

52,934 > 45,090 Someone needs to take remedial math. K

I don't buy the 52,000 number. The final number for that year that we had was 43,000. I think the 52,000 was a preliminary number, because not only would USF be above UCF, USF would be #1 in the country, which it...isn't yet. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 04:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seal

Is there a better official seal for the university that is still dark green and gold instead of bright yellow and green? Those are the only ones I've been able to find. Still the picture of a brick wall doesn't cut it. ArchonMeld 21:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Why doesn't it "cut it"? It's GFDL since it was a picture I could take. When you can, go for free alternatives. This is one. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 03:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Engineering

Hm, no mention of engineering ... might need to fix that. -- ∞Dbroadwell 06:08, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

We have Engineering! Hopefully, I can get around to putting up more of the CoE's projects in the near future. --Bboritzki 21:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] USF Lakeland

Does anyone have information about the upcoming USF campus from media or official sources? I was just wondering per the enrollment question. If USF has ~43.000 total enrollment, and it adds this supposedly 15.000 student campus, wouldn't that seem to make total enrollment around 60.000 (with growth until then factored in)? Thats almost a mega-university. 128.186.225.193 17:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Lakeland is the smallest campus. USFSP has 6,000 students, so Lakeland wouldn't have anywhere near that. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 17:08, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Health

Okay, the Health section is an absolute eyesore. Is anyone in favor of just removing it completely and trying to start a whole area on different colleges, health being just one of many? See the UCF article for what I'm talking about. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 17:08, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I like that idea, but when I removed it the first time I got an angry note on my talk page from a couple of USF Health employees. I figured I'd tag it and let them try to fix the issues, but they haven't even begun to deal with fundamental issues like NPOV ("visionary leadership"?!). I support starting from scratch. Gamaliel 17:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Let's do so. Are you up for starting sections on every college? Engineering, Education, Arts and Sciences, the whole gamut? Maybe we should sandbox first. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 03:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I am done wasting my time here, I wish you would delete my account (as I have zero contributions at this point, and intend to keep it that way). Wikipedia is all about editor power trips, trolls and the like. And as such, is deleted from my bookmarks forever.

Ken

Dude, calm down and assume good faith on both mine and Gamaliel's parts. We're only trying to make the USF article better, which is the whole aim of Wikipedia. I never said anything about not incorporating some of the Health information into a new section under Colleges : Health, but as it is, it is unwieldy and rambling. USF is not ALL about Health, and has taken up a disproportionate amount of the article at present time. If you would like to contribute to the sandboxed version of the "colleges" part of a future edition of an article, I would like your input. But do NOT throw a hissy fit when things don't go your way. I go to this school and I'm proud of it, so I want a great article. You should want that too. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 04:19, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

We could compromise with Ken, et al and start with the health section first. While they are apparently a bit headstrong, I think the problem here is that they don't understand that the section doesn't meet Wikipedia requirements of WP:NPOV, etc. Gamaliel 17:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

You guys are on power trips big time. Ken and I worked very hard on the USF Health article only to be insulted by punks for a two bit online encyclopedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.35.27.83 (talk • contribs) .

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Gamaliel 17:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Neutrality? This article is an eyesoar. Instead of informing people about the history of USF Health, they get links to USFs webstes! This not only violates your NEUTRALITY policy but is totally inconsistant with the purpose of an encyclopedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.35.27.83 (talk • contribs) .

It's a work in progress. If you have any suggestions, please offer them. If you wish to add material consistent with Wikipedia policies of WP:NPOV and WP:RS, please feel free. Gamaliel 20:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football

I think a lot of the football information can be moved to South Florida Bulls football, and the athletics section expanded to describe the other sports we field as well. I'm hesitant to keep the "War on I-4" information, because every newspaper I've read that mentions it, from The Oracle to The Tampa Tribune, call it an "unofficial rivalry," especially since The Oracle mentioned that Jim Leavitt does not want to continue the USF/UCF series past 2008, when the contract expires. I would like to hear thoughts, and do remember WP:NPOV when you articulate such thoughts. I'm proud of my school's achievements as much as the next person, but do remember this is an encyclopedia. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 06:51, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Athletics

I added the Expandsection tag, not realizing the "Football" comment was here. So it works out. Hires an editor 14:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Academics

This article really needs an Academics section.

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