Talk:United States Marshals Service

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[edit] assesssment

Good article, covers the bases well, possibly overbalanced with lists perhaps, and there needs to be many more references, and images. Other than that, looks good so far.--SGGH 15:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I think that these two articles should be merged. --swat671 09:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I Disagree. They're both very long (imagine how long the merged article would be if they were put together) and seem to do plenty fine on their own. Besides, you provide no reason why you think they should be merged.Dr. B 07:31, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Basically, because they're about the same subject and the second one should never have been created (and contains content cut and pasted from the official website). Obvious really. -- Necrothesp 19:50, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Anyone applying to the Detention Enforcemnt Officer postion, Be WARNED!!!, You are treated as a second class citizen within the usms. There is no union, and they expect you to kiss their a** just so you can hope to get a deputy spot.

Do not take this job under any circumstance, its a dead end job and it just plain sucks!yea thats true iam just palying i dont know.

[edit] how many

can it be written clear how many marshels there are today?

[edit] Link dead

Following removed from main article after flagging as 404: The Problem We All Live With --cfmdobbie

[edit] U.S. Marshals Service – oldest federal law enforcement agency?

Check out the U.S. Postal Inspection Service page and compare its' history with that of the Marshals. The USPIS was started in 1772. The Marshals began in the 1780's. How can the Marshals claim to be the oldest?
– Bearyz (Contribs) 19:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The United States Marshals Service claimes to be the oldest “law enforcement agency”.
The U.S. Postal Inspection Service has the following on its history page:
  • 1772 – Under the colonial postal system, Postmaster General Benjamin Franklin created the position of “surveyor” because he could no longer single-handedly regulate and audit postal functions.
  • 1801 – Title of surveyor changed to Special Agent.
  • 1830 – The Office of Instructions and Mail Depredations was established as the investigative branch of the Post Office Department.
So obviously, the United States Marshals Service does not consider the pre-1830 Special Agents to constitute a “law enforcement agency”.
MJBurrageTALK • 05:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing section

I think the portion below, while possibly a valid part of the article does not belong so close to the beginning. It is probably not all that understandable to anyone not familiar with the federal civil service or law enforcement. For example a superficial reading make one think he is talking about people who were deputies in 1811. Overall, I would be inclined to cut it entirely, but would like to discuss
Peter Reilly 21:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

OPM Classification
Deputy U.S. Marshals are classified as either General Schedule (GS) 1811 (Criminal Investigator Deputy) or 0082 (Deputy). The 1811 Deputies receive an additional 25% LEAP pay on top of their base pay, and may progress to the grade of GS-12. Additionally, 0082 Deputies may only progress to the grade of GS-11. Due to budget cutbacks, the U.S. Marshals Service only hires 0082 Deputy U.S. Marshals. An 0082 Deputy wishing to become an 1811 Deputy must do so by applying internally. In recent years, the Marshals Service has promoted an average of 120 to 140 (GS)1811 Deputies per year. Recent developments at headquarters, coupled with a new director seem to show promise for advancement opportunities for 0082 Deputies.
0082 Deputies do have the same "Federal Law Enforcement Special Agent" powers as 1811 deputies .0082 Deputies primary duties are very similar to that of their counterpart 1811 deputies, yet 0082 deputies may not act as a lead investigator. 1811 deputies perform mostly investigative related duties such as fugitive apprehension, etc.