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[edit] Merchandise
I've removed the following reference, because as far as I can tell, no such DVD is commercially available.
- All 120 episodes are available on a DVD anthology.
The only Underdog DVDs I can find in production are several volumes of incomplete selections from the series. I cannot find any evidence of the complete single volume anthology that the article mentions.
If someone is certain an official release exists, by all means, post a link for confirmation and revert my edit. ~CS 11:51, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Live action feature
I just saw them filming in providence RI today, April 6 2006
[edit] Underdog (disambiguation)
Why isn't Underdog a disambiguation page? The cartoon is not the origin of the term or (I think) the most common use. I expect a page about the general idea of an underdog... shouldn't the main page be about the common use of the word? Or the disambiguation page? futurebird 13:33, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking something like:
- The predicted losing team in a particular contest.
- "the beaten dog in a fight," Merriam-Webster 1887, from under + dog. Cf. top dog "dominant person in a situation or hierarchy." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Futurebird (talk • contribs) 08:46, 17 June 2006.
- There are a several reasons the current naming came to be:
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- First: Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Unless there is a lengthy article to be written about the concept of an underdog, it would be innapropriate to have a stub that simply defines the word. I wouldn't want this article replaced with your short article above, for this reason.
- Second: Looking at the content at Underdog (disambiguation), only the Underdog cartoon and Underdog (competition) are in competition for the most common use of the word, as far as the articles Wikipedia has are concerned. The cartoon should probably be moved to Underdog (TV Series) or Underdog (cartoon) and Underdog (competition) moved directly to this article.
- Third: Sometimes the genesis of pages leads to an article that is not the most pertinant sitting in the 'top' namespace. In our case, the cartoon's article was created in 2003, and competition article a year later. We can always move pages when something like this occurs. ~CS
I think I would have to advocate Underdog being the disambiguation page, with the top two links to Underdog (TV series) and Underdog (competition). Powers 17:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Is there any particular reason you'd want this, rather than having Underdog (competition) as the primary page? I can go either way, but it seems like having Underdog (competition) as the primary page, with a link to the disambiguation, would look cleaner. I *think* the manual of style prefers this approach as well. I'm out of town for a few days, if someone had a moment to look this up, it would be helpful. ~CS 17:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Yes. I think either possibility is close to equally likely, so we shouldn't presume which meaning the user wants. The Manual of Style doesn't say much (as far as I can tell) about it, but this article does: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (precision) Powers 13:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Character homages
Simon seems plausible to be based on Lionel Barrymore, but does any particular performance by Barrymore come to mind? Cad reminded my dad of Lon Chaney Jr, and am I the only one who thinks that Polly could have been based on an early-career Barbara Walters? What say you? knoodelhed 07:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Theme song
The theme song for Underdog comes from Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker. This is OR, so I haven't added it to the page. Any suggestions as to what to do, other than just sit on it? Matchups 02:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- There could have been an influence on some level, but in a classic case of visually-impaired people encountering an elephant for the first time, I'lll have to say it bears more resemblance to early 20th century "singing cowboy" music, like Ghost Riders In The Sky. knoodelhed 01:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
