Talk:UH-72 Lakota
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[edit] Need Help
I've created the page but it's clearly not exactly well presented :) If someone could clean it up i'd be very grateful (being completely new at this I don't want to screw it up completely). Also if someone could insert citations for sources because again I have no idea how to atm :O Thanks for the assistance..—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Beretta Face (talk • contribs).
[edit] Merge
As the UH-72A is really a EC145 I would suggest this article is merged with the Eurocopter EC145 article before we end up with two identical articles.MilborneOne 08:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, both these aircraft are the BK-117-C. But since Eurocopter bought out Bolkow, they get to call it whatever they want, I guess. Wikipedia:merge shows you how to recommend merging articles. (Born2flie 02:46, 8 September 2006 (UTC))
- Merge -- On second thought, I'm going to agree with you. Other than radios and kits, there will be very little modification to the standard production EC145 to create this helicopter. (Born2flie 01:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC))
- Don't Merge-- In time the UH-72 will be loaded with info that have no need to be on EC-145 article, such U.S. Army developments with it, aircraft accidents, etc. I especially oppse this if LUH is also going to be merged into it, as the LUH info is only tagentially relevant to the EC-145. A75 15:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge, Part II
- Merge -- I recommend that the U.S. Army Light Utility Helicopter Program article be merged into this article since the significance of the program is the aircraft that is selected. (Born2flie 01:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC))
- Don't Merge - Especially not if UH-72 is merged into EC-145, as all the information on a Army program is not highly relevant to the EC-145. If the UH-72 is not merged, then it might be reasonable depending how it is done. A75 15:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge, Part III
- Merge --- The LUH page should include the UH-72A data. The UH-72A is now the LUH. I would recommend keeping it distinct from the EC-145 page, as it is different in some ways from the base EC-145 (BK 117C2) in the areas of avionics and specific mission kits.
- Don't Merge --- LUH was a military program not a aircraft, its not in the same category. The LUH's page point of focus - the other contenders and the competition itself -don't hold the same relevancy to the helicopter article. Putting everything together will restrict each subjects growth. LUH program details will suffer, as they won't be seen as relevant to the operational and technical traits of a aircraft. A75 22:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Merge --- The LUH page should be merged into the UH-72 page, as both pages are rather short at this time. The LUH program is over (as it was won by the EC145), so there will be no new developments in the program which are not related to the UH-72. Any extended information related to the other LUH contestants should be put under their respective pages. The UH-72 page should remain separate from the EC145 page. (Posted 19:47, September 29, 2006) by BillCJ 00:38, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
By my count, we have 4 for merging with the LUH article, and 2 against. It has been well over a month since the last post, so I am proceeding with the merger. - BillCJ 07:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge completed
With the new information the article has filled out well, though we could use some recent pics. I also added some other features, and revamped the related content. This was my second attempt at merging, as I had accidently closed almost an hour's work at 1:30am without saving it first. So there may be some errors I didn't catch the second time. The Specs are not an "error"; they are copied from another article, and I have not had time to update them as yet. I hope to get them done by this weekend, but all I have are EC145 specs. Thanks.
Born2flie, I saw your work on your sepaate LUH project, esp re: the early LHX development. May I have your permission to use some of it in the article? Thanks either way. - BillCJ 07:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, thought I had responded to this last night. Yes, you may use that paragraph. I believe it was an Army or GAO source I got it from. I will try to remember to look. I will caution that I can't remember if I paraphrased or cut and pasted that particular paragraph.
- --Born2flie 22:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I may have some sources that verify some of the info, and I'll try to cite those. I'll paraphrase what I can anyway. I remeber reading about most of it years ago, so I'm confident of it's reliability, though that's not enough for Wiki's standard of verifiability. We'll make it work. - BillCJ 22:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lakota
Does someone have an official source for the new name, such as an press release? The only think I found on Google was on a forum. I'm hesitant to change the name based on that. Seems a bit premature to go changing the article text based on unconfirmed reports to this point. - BillCJ 02:05, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I finally found a press release for the new name on the US Army website [1]. I have renamed the article as UH-72 Lakota. The usual naming convention for US military aircraft is just the basic designation (no variant letter after the number, except for a different article, such as F/A-18E/F, of CH-53E) and popular name. Thanks. - BillCJ 06:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
