Talk:Ufology

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Need some help here. - Sigg3.net 19:42, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

What sort? People will help if they can Moriori 21:54, Dec 6, 2003 (UTC)

This is a great field. Going to need some help. This sentence is wrong though: especially claims that some UFOs are extraterrestrial vehicles manned by aliens, since UFO Norge are trying to get international approval as "real scientists" (if such things should exist), so they don't jump to any conclusions. Most of the cases they've handled (something that is incredibly normal) are observations of the moving moon when driving a car... But they've got observations of "saucers" that were confirmed by military radars as well. I changed especially to also. Thanks anyway. - Sigg3.net 23:10, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Changed no physical evidence to any conclusive evidence, since physical evidence HAS been found and published. - Sigg3.net 23:18, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I'll try to make it clearer on the page. There IS evidence for UFOs, including film which I have seen, for flying objects that were and are unidentified. But, no-one has EVER produced physical evidence of any UFO of extraterrestrial origin. ( I'm talking physical evidence, not claims. If you think otherwise, then list the urls here please). If someone ever does, then Wikipedia will need a new page headed "ETs" {Extraterrestrial Vehicles, fancy that), because, being identified, they could no longer be UFOs. Moriori 00:02, Dec 7, 2003 (UTC)

I think you miss the point. Not all ufology are concentrated on ET's. UFO Norge has made research on magnetic disturbances etc. (See "The Hessdal Project"). But there are way too many loonies out there too... - Sigg3.net

No, I don't miss the point at all. I know ufology should not exclusively concentrate on ETs but the perception of the pubic is that it does. The problem is that if several people independently report a spectacular UFO sighting, the media will get some UFO proponent on camera who will say aha, it's a flying saucer with little green men from outer space. They won't get someone from CSICOP or UFO Norge who would say, aha, here we have reliable reports of a flying object which is unidentified, so we will try to find an explantion for it. Even if they did find an explanation, it would be a non story so it wouldn't get publicity, and there would be those who continued to tout it as ET. Moriori 23:17, Dec 7, 2003 (UTC)

You're quite right about that, but I don't see why this should change the article. When most people hear about astrology they think about witches with crystalballs, but this is also considered science (to a degree). - Sigg3.net 23:35, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

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Is there any good reason this article shouldn't become a section of UFO? - David Gerard 11:55, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)

A lot could be said about the UFO subculture which could fall under Ufology... Dysprosia 11:56, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)

That's the thing - they're not really separate subjects. A lot of the stuff and links in UFO are about the subculture. And is "ufology" a science, the UFO subculture or what? I'm strongly tempted to merge real soon - David Gerard 12:22, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)

No, no, no and no. Have a look at UFO Norge's webpage, for instance. UFO-NORWAY is open to any and all hypothesis and theories which may represent possible solutions to the UFO enigma, and will not attribute unidentified reports to any particular theory. They're really trying to open the scientific society to the fact that UFOs are not a product of (crazy) peoples imagination, but measurable on radiation-instruments and viewable on radar, for instance. So, placing them under UFO subculture is wrong, hence Ufology must stand as an article of its own. - Sigg3.net 08:59, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

In that case please separate them out a lot better. It's not in the least clear at the moment. - David Gerard 13:10, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. - Sigg3.net 13:54, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Isn't UFO an acronym for Unidentified Flying Object? Then why is this page advocating the word {You-eff-oh-olo-jist}? Should this article merge into maybe Xenology, which is currently a stub?

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Hi guys. I could use some help with this: The Disclosure Project NPC Conference--Striver 14:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)