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Should the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup winners be added to this article, or should there be a new article on this?

1 Club badges
2 Qualification
3 Past Winners
4 Completely wrong
5 Image Caption review
6 To do list
7 Fairs Cup / UEFA Cup
8 Qualification Information
9 ==I need an aswer quicly pls==
10 Winnrrs

[edit] Club badges

I've reverted the addition of national flags and club badges to the table of finalists, because:

The club badges generally possess white, not transparent backgrounds and look quite ugly on the blue background.
Because only some clubs have their badges on wikipedia (aside - is this OK copyright-wise?) it looks weird when mixed up with national flags, as if clubs are playing against nations.
Some badges are wrong - e.g. the modern-day Leeds United badge, which was used on this page, is not the same was the one the club used in the 1960s [1]. There may be other examples too.

Qwghlm 14:02, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

I honestly don't see a problem with club badges or national flags being displayed, in an international competition it seems obvious to show which country the clubs came from, changing the format of this display from that of the champions league doesn't make any sense. But in answer to the specific questions above;

Deleting all the badges because they do not possess transparent backgrounds was uncalled for, a request for someone to change the badge type would have been more prudent. If that was not possible the badges should have been left as they are, not everyone finds them ugly.
The emblems and logos of the clubs are used in their individual pages, they can be used under the 'fair use' system. It shouldn't pose any problem.
It seems logical to use the badges that were present at the time the team was playing, in a similar way to the flag of yugoslavia is being used when noting red star belgrade's victory in the champions league.

The only real issue is whether club badges and/or national flags should be used. The champions league format uses just the national flags and i suggest following its example (it'll also solve many of the problems discussed above). The logos and history of any logos can easily be included in the individual club pages. If anyone wants to replace the national flags in line with the champions league page go ahead.

Fine, I wasn't arguing against badges/flags per se, just that as they stood they looked ugly. National flags like the UEFA Champions League page would be fine to put in, in my opinion. Qwghlm 21:54, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Re-reading my post i might have come across as being a bit too aggressive, i didn't mean to be.

[edit] Qualification

Is it possible to add the exact qualifying data for a country from the UEFA ranking ? Thank you

[edit] Past Winners

Why is there no table of past winners as per all of the other football tournament articles? I know there is a past finals list, but this is not quite what I mean, and why is it on a different page anyway, when it is far more fundemental to the article than alot of the other information on here. Philc _T^E_C^I 22:48, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Completely wrong

This article is completely wrong, the Fairs Cup and the UEFA Cup are completely different, chech UEFA's official website to see this (http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/uefacup/History/index.html). As an example, check Barcelona's official trophy count (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50080/competition=1/index.html). As you can see, there are no UEFA Cups, nor Fairs Cup, as this was an unofficial competition. I think the article should be completely changed and only talk about the UEFA Cup. Then another one on the Fairs Cup could be done. Robert King.

[edit] Image Caption review

The captions in this article have been reviewed and meet the criteria for good captions.

--Epolk 16:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC) - (Writing Captions WikiProject)

[edit] To do list

(copied from article improvement drive nom) This article was submitted to FAC last week, but isn't really ready yet. Some of the objections included:

Too list-heavy / some of the lists need converting to prose
- Most lists moved to UEFA Cup records and statistics. Conscious 07:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Insufficient lead
Too short
"Trivia" section should not be there
- Moved out. Conscious 16:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Tone too informal.

Oldelpaso 16:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

It'd be good to add something about significance of the tournament. Conscious 16:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
IMO the description of English qualification is too long. Conscious 16:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, qualification should be described in a manner which isn't country specific. Oldelpaso 19:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fairs Cup / UEFA Cup

Is it really fair to say that the Fairs Cup was "renamed" the UEFA Cup? It seems to be that the UEFA Cup is treated as a new competition, REPLACING the Fairs Cup. - fchd 17:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It's the official version. See [2], specifically "Name change" section. Conscious 19:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qualification Information

"the UEFA Administration may, at the request of the association of the club concerned, admit this club to the current UEFA Cup competition. Its participation will not be at the expense of the contingent of its association."

Are you sure this is correct because I know that for the Champions League, for example, the winner of the cup will get into the competition along with the team that qualified for the last place in the cup. If having both clubs in the competition causes too many clubs from the same country to be in the competition then the holder of the cup will get in ahead of the last qualifying club (the one who finished the lowest out of all the clubs that qualified). Too many clubs, for the Champions League for example, is five clubs (four is the max and therefore a problem is created when a club outside the top four wins the Champions League and UEFA has recently changed their rules to completely address this sort of situation after the Liverpool-Everton debacle last year). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yonatanh (talk • contribs).

[edit] ==I need an aswer quicly pls==

UEFA Cup 2005/06 – won by Sevilla

Here's the answer. Conscious 16:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Winnrrs

I believe that the Croartian team Dinamo Zagreb should be recognised as Croatian, rather than Yugolsav. Perhaps a note after the box or something similar should be done. Wat do u think

THE MILJAKINATOR 03:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

No, they represented Yugoslavia at the time. The article Dinamo Zagreb, however, clearly states that it's a Croatian club now. Conscious 13:24, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

On the contray it always was a Croatian Club. eVEN IN COMMUNIST yUGOSLAVIA. iT WAS ALWAY BACKED BY DEMOCRATIC cROATIANS AND OPPOSED cOMMUNISM. i BELIEVE ITS RIGHT TO MENTION THAT.

THE MILJAKINATOR 12:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

They represented Yugoslavia at the time. It's inaccurate to say they represented Croatia when there was no country called Croatia at the time. - Pal 13:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

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