Talk:U.S. 82nd Airborne Division
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[edit] Baggy Pants
Is the January 1944 date in paragraph 5 correct? (RJP 15:09, 26 May 2005 (UTC))
I doubt it, since the phrase was acknowlged by the Germans, not the US Army. It is apocrophal at best. SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 00:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
The Battle of Anzio was from 23 Jan 1944 to 25 May 1944. This is where the 504th was when the diary was captured. They are known through out the Army as the "Devil's in Baggy Pants". The actual diary resides in the 82nd Airborne Division War Memorial Museum on Ardennes Street in Ft. Bragg, NC. --82nd Paratrooper 17:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] OUTDATED INFO-removed from page
"The 1st brigade of the division is now scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan in the fall of 2004." Needs to updated. WikiDon 05:03, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Gay Pornography Scandal
Changed into current wording from this;
In January 2006, the U.S. Army began an investigation into why members of the 82nd Airborne were appearing in a military-themed gay male pornography site. The owner of the website is registered in Fayetteville, close by the 82nd's headquarters.
Neither the article sited, nor the Dept of Defense claim that members are actually on the website. The US Army is investigating the allegations as of this date. 84.253.198.193 12:35, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- Either way, so what? What does any of that have to do with the Division? 69.58.248.102 10:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Good point and good catch. Thanks!
Also, any idea what website it is? I'd be fascinated if it turned out to be Jeff Gannon's HotMilitaryStuds site.
It's troubling that the army says it's okay to torture a man, but not okay to pose naked with him in gay porn. NiftyDude 15:57, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I found out what website it was.
Fleshbot nailed down the alleged website as ActiveDuty.com: "Of all the military-themed gay porn sites out there, Active Duty is pretty much the only one that consistently features models who actually look like they’ve gone AWOL for a few hours to film some hot soldier-on-soldier action." http://towleroad.typepad.com/towleroad/2006/01/82nd_airborne_d.html
http://www.fleshbot.com/sex/gay/active-duty-under-fire-151300.php
NiftyDude 01:21, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm new to wikipedia so I have to ask - is it unusual that almost 10% of the words in an article like this are about recent news events - the prisoner abuse scandal or the gay dance club story? Editorial content?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.57.33.54 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 11 February 2006.
I want to see for myself if this site is legit and if the people actually look like soldiers but no access.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.189.156.178 (talk • contribs) 06:37, 25 February 2006.
i was in the 82nd ,our motto was all the way.can anyone see if this is the motto or where there more than one—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.185.126.254 (talk • contribs) 03:20, 28 February 2006.
That is indeed the motto of the Division although individual units within the Division also have motto's. Such as the 504th PIR mentioned above. --82nd Paratrooper 17:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Propaganda names
Please note that articles should follow the neutral point of view. Propaganda names should be avoided when possible. Añoranza 02:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- It's the official name.--Looper5920 02:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree, --zero faults |sockpuppets| 02:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- I am always greatly amused whenever I see someone object to "Propaganda" when what they really mean is that they are against so-called "Black" propaganda. They really donh't object to "White" Propaganda since they really havn't a clue as to the difference between the two. In fact, I'll wager that opponents to so-called "propaganda names" aren't aware of just what "White" Propaganda is. I am sure that they assume that the form of Propaganda they recognize - "Black" Propaganda - is all there is, but that is simply not the case. Properly, propaganda is nothing more than information that furthers one side or the other in a cause. It was the Jesuits who coined the term, and they intended it to further the Christian cause. "Black" Propaganda is propaganda that stretches the truth just enough to further a lie, while "White" Propaganda tells the honest truth - as the propagator see the truth - and so furthers the cause, even when that cause is cricized by objectors. In other words, one man's propaganda is another man's information. Both can be true and factual, and therefore should not be discriminated against.SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 02:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
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- "Black" propaganda...."White" propaganda.....what are you talking about?Equinox137 04:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- The 2nd brigade of the Division took part in 2003 invasion of Iraq in early 2003.
- This most recent change has caused the article to have 2003 twice in the same sentance. That is bad sentance structure. The result is you reduced the quality of the article. This doesnt not work in your favour -- slow down -- make good changes instead of lots of changes. Jayvdb 02:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Importance rating
I rated this article as "Top" based on the the fact that the 82nd has been involved in most military operations in the last few decades, they are the US's primary rapid deployment force (usually first to go), and that the unit is known to most people in the U.S., even if they don't have a clue what the unit does. --Nobunaga24 06:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
