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[edit] Title on infobox

Why does it say "Anatolian Turks" ? The Turkish-speaking people of Turkey call themselves simply "Turks". Turks dont just live in Anatolia, but also in the Balkans and to a lesser extent in the Levent(Hatay) and Caucasus (if you consider the exteme northeast of Turkey and also formerly in Ajaria and Meskhetia). In fact, Turks form the second most numerous ethnic goup in the Balkans after romanians. If you wanted to make a distinction from other Turkic peoples, a more apt title would be "Ottoman Turks" (Osmanlı Türkler), implying descent fom the Ottoman Empire. --Kilhan 16:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I thought that 'Anatolian Turks' term was much better. Because If you say only 'Turks' population in Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan aren't the same same as on the table. All of them are completely Turk population. If we say only 'Turks' we should say that all of the azerbaijan and Uzbekistan is Turk. Than let's change them.--Uzak 10:35, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
You mean in the interests of Pan-Turkism. --Tēlex 10:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
What we will call them. Do you think they are Uzbek or Azeri. These names are all newfangled. Thay are all turks. this is not about pan Turkism.--Uzak 10:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

And I still can't understand why Sezen Aksu's pic is there.--Uzak 10:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

This article is about Turks who were descended from the Ottoman Empire. Kazakhs and the like are technically Turkic, but form a different ethnos. Sezen Aksu is there because she's Turkish and famous. Besides, we need at least one woman on there since half of all Turks are...*drum roll*... female (Surprise surprise) --Kilhan 22:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Of all the turkish women who lived, who picked the cocaine-addicted singer? I'm very well aware that the people in Turkey have an inexplicable sympathy for her, but wouldn't it be more appropriate to put Sabiha Gökçen or Halide Edip Adıvar there? --Cornholio1985 12:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Well the people featured were decided following a concensus amongst other wikipedia editors. Personally, I would like to see Nazim Hikmet on there in place of one of the sultans, maybe Fatih Mehmet. --Kilhan 09:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC) P.S. Where did you pick up the coccaine addiction thing ? Its the first time I've heard of it.

[edit] Turkish names

Why is there no paragraph about Turkish names ? I have made a small list of very popular names for Turks. They are drawn from Turkic tradition, islamic tradition and other traditions

Male names :

Adnan, Ahmet, Arslan, Bulent, Burak, Cem , Fatih, Gökhan , Hakan, Kemal, Mehmet, Serkan, Süleyman , Tarkan, Volkan

Female names :

Arzu, Aysel, Bahar, Burcu, Deniz, Emel, Hande,İpek, Meltem, Özge, Özlem, Pelin, Sibel, Tuğçe , Yasemin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zoko19 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 13 September 2006.

Perhaps you could start a new article called Turkish name? Try to base it off these articles. —Khoikhoi 05:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox images

Hi, I realized that the four images in the infobox do not properly align on web browsers other than Internet Explorer (I'm using Opera v9 and I have this problem). I'm going to merge these four images into one, as is common on "people" pages (see Greeks, Swedish people, Dutch people, for example). I also think another version including more people can be made, like the one on the Dutch people page. I will be glad to hear your suggestions on which persons to include in such an image. Atilim Gunes Baydin 17:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Atilim, Im pretty sure that combining the four together into a composite would constitute a copyright violation since not all of them are free images that can be modified in any particular way. Im using Mozilla firefox (not Internet explorer) and the four seperate images bunched together look pretty much like how a composite would, except that the edges dont meld together as well. The current version seems to be the best direction to go, imo - at least to avoid the complex copyright issues that may prop up.--Kilhan 09:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I do not think that it will constitute a copyright violation, as long as there are no violation issues with the constituent images. Like the wiki markup that used to hold these images together in place, it's just a technique to show images side by side. I believe that copyright laws are concerned with how and where the images are presented, not the technical details holding them in place. And as I said before, please note that this is common practice (see Germans, English people, Norwegian people, Greeks, Swedish people, Dutch people, French people (ethnic group), Italian people, Spanish people). In fact, I could not find another "people" page that uses wiki markup to hold the images in place. Atilim Gunes Baydin 10:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Population update added

changed to 70,413,958 and 66.7 to 74.5 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aceflooder (talk • contribs) 14:42, 3 September 2006.

It's wrong. —Khoikhoi 23:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Not everyone in turkey is ethnical Turkish but about 90 percent are. there are also turkish minorities in balkan countries. North Cyprus is 99.5 % ethnical turkish, but only turkey recognises it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zoko19 (talk • contribs) 05:46, 13 September 2006.

90%? According to the CIA World Factbook, Kurds make up 20% of Turkey's population. BTW, remember that Turkey's census is not based on ethnicity. —Khoikhoi 05:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo Turks

According to last census on Kosovo there were about 12,000 Turks. Luka Jačov 16:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Is it possible 66.7 million Turks when 73 million people lives in Turkey? and the other Turks in outside. Zaparojdik

Not everyone who lives in Turkey is Turkic. About 20 million are kurdish, and there are others too.Khosrow II 22:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Not regarding the question but not 20 million Kurds live in Turkey. Turkey's %8 are native speaker of Kurdish and with others who speak Turkish as a second language and as native language, 13 million is total. Regarding my question, if there are 73 million people in Turkey and if 13 million is Kurds others are being Turks.(because everyone accepts themselves as Turks except Kurds) There are millions of Turks in outside, it doesn't seem logical 66.7 million Turks around the world. Sincerely-Zaparojdik 19:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pamuk

I think it's about time for Orhan Pamuk's picture to reappear in the infobox ... --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 12:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Turkey has two major group Turks and people of kurdish origin.Approximate numbers can be as below: Turks: 56 million Kurds: 14 million Araps: 1 million circassians: 1 million(çerkezler) others: 1 million

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azerian,turkmen,ozbekian,kazakh,kyrgz .... people are must be in turkish people....they are turks... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aceflooder (talk • contribs) 19:23, 24 October 2006.

There's a difference between Turkic and Turkish people... Khoikhoi 19:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turkic peoples...

Must merge Turkic People Total Population to infobox..you cant make all Turks about 66 million are you kidding? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aceflooder (talk • contribs) .

Like I said, there's a difference between Turkic and Turkish people... Khoikhoi 19:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok i just want people to see Turkish and Turkic people in one box.User:Aceflooder 22:16, 25 October 2006
Why should they be in one box? Should we add up all the numbers of Germanic peoples for the infobox in the Germans article? Khoikhoi 21:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


Turks, or Turkish people are citizens of Turkey.Nothing to do the Turkics who migrated to Anatolia.Most people in Turkey are native Anatolians.But of course some of these Anatolians posses an ancestor who was one of those Turkics who settle in Anatolia under the Seljuk confederacy.But bloodline mainly Anatolian.And then of course you have people of Turkey with partial or full roots from the Balkans,Crimea and the Caucasus.

The Turk identity is new.It was used to denote Muslims of the Balkans and in Anatolia,those Anatolians who were Muslim and Ottoman linguitically and culturally during Ottoman times.In other words,Turks or Turkish people is merely an umbrella term for anyone of Turkish nationality,or during the Ottoman Empire,a person who is a Muslim with cultural connections to the Ottomans.

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