Talk:Tropical Storm Jose (2005)

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[edit] Merge

Too little information outside the storm section in the seasonal article. It has next to no impact, picture isn't very good, and there's no need for these menial storm articles. Every storm does not need an article. I repeat: Every storm does not need an article. Just because it is new doesn't mean it should have one. I vote yes for merge. Hurricanehink 17:18, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, the same thing with Arlene and Cindy, we do not need an article on every single storm. --24.83.100.214 03:47, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Completely agreed and I'm gradually merging the non-notable ones. I don't want an edit war. -- Hurricane Eric archive -- my dropsonde 04:11, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Todo2

Wow, how things have changed! (See above). More statistics are needed, like rainfall totals or houses destroyed. Someone who knows Spanish should google Tormenta Tropical Jose to get some Spanish sites on the storm... could find some information not in the TCR. Hurricanehink 14:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Rainfall totals can be found in the TCR, I've added that. I'm not sure how the units are best quoted for rainfall, is it X inches (Y mm) that is appropriate? -- Nilfanion 16:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Yea, that works. Whenever possible, add metric units next to American units, like 20 miles (46 km). Be sure to find some sources other than the TCR. Hurricanehink 17:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Finding non-TCR data for the Mexican storms though is something I won't be much use at seeing as my knowledge of Spanish is zilch. --Nilfanion 17:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

LOL, and I'll help. This site gives a lot of good statistics (here's an English translation]). According to the site, the storm caused $45 million in damage, a figure I'll add to the article. Plenty of other facts are there, and that was just the first page that came up. I'm sure there's more out there for someone who knows spanish. Hurricanehink 01:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

That site says its source is "El Universal": Heres article and pictures from that site.--Nilfanion (talk) 15:58, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Since I'm a native speaker of Spanish here goes the translation of the text.

Tropical Storm Jose damaged crops, highways and homes; left districts of several cities under the water, around fifty isolated communities and 80 thousand people in shelters in the state of Veracruz. This situation forced President Vicente Fox to make a visit to the disaster zones. The government of that state concluded that damages caused by the rain could rise to 500 million pesos (around 48 million dollars), as they report the damages caused in 120 municipalities. The sub secretary of the Civil Defense (Protección Civil), Ranulfo Márquez Hernández, revealed that eight of the municipalities received most of the damage and explained that in those zones there were 10 thousands victims, according to a report. Those municipalities are Martínez de la Torre, Misantla, Nautla, San Rafael, Vega de la Torre, Actopan, Cardel and Úrsulo Galván. The damages to the highway infrastructure are estimated in 350 million pesos (around 33 million dollars) mainly in the municipalities of Naranjos, Agua Dulce, Jáltipan, San Andrés Tuxtla, Hidalgotitlán, Tenochtitlán, Cosoleacaque, Chinameca and Catemaco.

State civil employees (empleados estatales) informed that the there were damages in at least 16 thousand homes and in 32 thousand hectares (around 80 thousand acres) of sugar cane, mainly in the South of that state. Also, 25 thousand hectares (around 60 thousand acres) used for cattle were flooded. Four thousand hectares of orange and Persian lemon were also flooded; in the river basin of the Papaloapan, damages to rice and sugar cane were severe; four thousand hectares (around ten thousand acres) of maize were "completely flooded"; and 2 thousand hectares (around 5000 thousand acres) of banana crops were damaged. In addition, damages to watermelon and vanilla crops surpass the 50 hectares (around 125 acres) and in 80 cages of mojarra in Barra de Chachalacas, as well as the disappearance of boats. With the purpose of avoiding infections in the zones where floods were registered, the Health Secretary (Secretaría de Salud, SSA) sent to damaged zones, 90 active medical brigades. The governor Fidel Herrera assured that "he passed the emergency" and affirmed that the damages were high because Tropical Storm Jose was combined with other meteorological patterns; however, the President requested more precise data.

And that's all juan andrés 03:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

The translation has been added to the article. If you don't like it, feel free to revert my edits. juan andrés 18:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

500 million pesos damage in Veracruz, 350 to the roads... what is the damage figure here?--Nilfanion 20:12, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

500 million pesos was the total damage in Veracruz. Next on the todo list is to make the article's translation into your own words. It is sort of a copy and paste. Anything scheduled to occur in the future, then, should be removed, like the damage total is expected to rise to 500 million pesos. Also, the rainfall totals and deaths from before need to somehow be worked back in. Hurricanehink 20:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)