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(cur) (last) . . m 03:19, 5 May 2004 . . Clarkk (=Past presenters (pre 1999)= don't forget tony biggs and tim ritchie)

I wouldn't, if I knew who they were to start with :) (We didn't get Triple J in my area until 1995) --Chuq 02:48, 5 May 2004 (UTC)

Regarding the regional expansion - ideally I'd like this section to specify the areas "expanded" to at each time. I only remember Launceston, Albany, Bathurst and Mackay (as well as three others whose names I have forgotten) that received it in 1995/1996.

As for the most recent changes, I have sourced info from http://www.abc.net.au/corp/hist7_radio.htm (mainly that the expansion occurred in two lots, 1994 and 1996).

The page above says it was expanded to 44 areas. The list below gives 57 areas. Subtracting the original 9 (capitals + Newcastle) that still leaves 48, so there must be four more additions since the 1996 expansion.

OTOH, this page (JJJ in 1999 thanks to archive.org) [1] says From there the station expanded yet again to 18 rural centres across Australia in January 1995, the first stage in a plan to reach a total of 46 regional centres of the country.

I've done some maths and used archive.org to view triple J's frequency page at that time, and it lists a total of 55 areas. The Albury/Wodonga frequency was doubled up, listed in both Vic and NSW, so that makes 54. That makes the total of 46 regional centres (and 8 capitals, counting Newcastle as regional) make sense.

The three transmitters that exist now, that didn't exist before, are Townsville North (97.5 FM), Wagga Wagga (101.1 FM), and strangely Bathurst 95.9FM. (the Bathurst in 1996 may have been this one [2])


Check the list below for locations we are still missing.

NSW: Armidale, Bathurst (1996), Bega/Cooma, Broken Hill, Central Tablelands, Central Western Slopes, Goulburn (town), Grafton/Kempsey, Illawarra, Manning River, Murrumbidgee Irrigation Area, Newcastle (1989), Richmond/Tweed, SW Slopes/E Riverina, Sydney (1975), Tamworth, Upper Namoi, Wagga Wagga

ACT: Canberra (1989)

NT: Alice Springs, Darwin (1989)

Qld: Brisbane (1989), Cairns, Cairns North, Darling Downs, Mackay (1996), Gold Coast, Mt Isa, Nambour, Rockhampton, Southern Downs, Townsville, Townsville North, Wide Bay

SA: Adelaide (1989), Adelaide Foothills, Mt Gambier, Renmark, Spencer Gulf North

Tas: Hobart (1989), Launceston (1996)

Vic: Ballarat, Bendigo, Goulburn Valley, Latrobe Valley, Melbourne (1989), Mildura/Sunraysia, Murray Valley, Upper Murray, Warrnambool, Western Victoria

WA: Albany (1996), Bunbury, Central Agricultural, Geraldton, Kalgoorlie, Perth (1989)


-- Chuq 02:48, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Station history

Info from these sites might be useful for early station history:

-- Chuq 07:26, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Unearthed

A couple of questions about changes to the unearthed section:

  • I think it was more of an ongoing thing, than an annual thing?
  • Innocent Criminals (=Silverchair) was, although a Triple J discovery, before the whole Unearthed thing? (I'm fairly sure though, that their 'finding' of this band encouraged them to start the Unearthed project).

-- Chuq 03:56, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Silverchair were discovered by an SBS TV show called Nomad. The talent-search part of the show was a joint production of JJJ and SBS, and its success inspired Unearthed. http://www.abc.net.au/longway/artist_index/silverchair.htm

[edit] Triple J / Double Jay

Should a separate article be created for Double Jay?

  • If not, Double Jay should redirect to Triple J and links to it should be removed.
  • If so, some of the history content from Triple J could be moved there, and it should be linked from this article prominently. Maybe History of Triple J could possibly redirect to there as well, but obviously anything from 1980 onwards would not be in the Double Jay article so it could be an awkward split.

-- Chuq 04:46, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I think Double Jay should redirect here. It's still the same station, really, and cutting it out would mean wiping out a large portion of the current article. Ambi 10:55, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Getting this featured

I think this is really starting to look fantastic, after some of the edits made over the last couple of days. I think we're really close, too, to being able to put this up for featured status.

  1. I've tried to cut down on some of the editorialising, but I think there's still some opinion throughout this (such as stating that JJJ was "entirely" responsible for so-and-so's success), which probably needs to go before someone objects to it when it becomes a featured article candidate
  2. What would you all think of moving the presenters list to List of Triple J presenters?
  3. There's still about four programs apparently needing work.
    • Net 50
    • The Breakfast Show
    • Today Today
    • The Chat Room
  4. As far as the images go, this one isn't tagged. Secondly, has anyone been able to work out whether we're going to be covered with these images under Australian fair dealing laws? If so, we should change them to the new template. Ambi 10:55, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
To reply one at a time...
  1. I guess saying "was a strong positive influence" would be good enough :)
  2. Hmm, I tend to dislike "List of.. articles". However I am planning to create stubs for each so that the shows they have hosted from the past can be moved into there, then they can be arranged three-column style to take up less vertical space.
  3. Yeah... I think The Breakfast Show will take the longest to do :) We can probably skip the Net 50 and The Chat Room, as they aren't high profile shows (well Net 50 is, but theres not much to say - its a chart show). Maybe Creatures/Artery deserves a mention?
  4. That linked pic was from the Triple J site. I was hoping to use it as a place filler until I found a real free one on the net, but no luck yet - I have asked around at a few forums so should get one soon! Might have to ask an expert in copyright law (someone here said they are/know one?) about the CD/book covers.
-- Chuq 15:16, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  1. I'd agree doing more editorialisation culling, leaning on the side of ruthlessness.
  2. I'm with Chuq here.
  3. The Breakfast Show section is good enough the way it is, I reckon. Sure, they're good and all that but besides being hyperactive at 6:00am what else do they do? The only thing I can think that's worthwhile adding is how they both hassled The Beatie Boys over the phone on Wednesday. :)
  4. Both TripleJ and the ABC in general would have plenty of contact points regarding using their images. If it's just for an informational article then I can't see what their problem would be.
Airconditioning 04:45, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

the history and programming sections need to be integrated and needs major copyediting. currently the programming section is far too long (it needs some additional sub-sectioning at the very least) and some of the material there would be better under the history section. the programming section should focus on the current/recent programming and have a short summary of the programming history, but much it should be in the history section. there is also quite a bit of repetition of material in the programming section, as it appears two writers have added text that covers the same period. clarkk 11:19, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Wiki Links

I am currently testing an automated Wikipedia link suggester. Ran it on this article, here are the results:

  • Can link market share: ...urveys, usually with less than half the market share of its major commercial rivals.http://...
  • Can link The establishment: ...stralian commercial radio stations. The establishment of Double Jay marked an historic change...
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  • Can link capital city: ... radio licence issued in any Australian capital city since 1932....
  • Can link program director: ...a 1990 commercial radio manager and program director Barry Chapman (ex-2SM Sydney) w...
  • Can link general manager: ... (ex-2SM Sydney) was appointed as general manager to oversee Triple J's network expansion...
  • Can link radio programming: ...he dust had settled on the dispute, the radio programming was not nearly as free-form as it had b...
  • Can link current affairs: ...ection below). It also covers news and current affairs from a youth-oriented perspective,a alt...
  • Can link top-down: ...dually replaced by a more business-like top-down management style and after the controve...
  • Can link Japanese pop: ...special-interest programs including the Japanese pop show Nippi Rock Shop, Arnold Frolow...
  • Can link American music: ...riented grunge style that dominated American music at the same time. ...
  • Can link The Police: ...he huge commercial success of acts like The Police and Nirvana in Australia unquestionably...
  • Can link popular songs: ...est 100 is an annual poll of the most popular songs amongst its listeners. It has been con...
  • Can link gold medal: ...eing waved behind the presentation of a gold medal to an Australia swimmer at the 1996 S...
  • Can link road signs: ... Australia. *A group of people erecting road signs with the Triple J frequency all the way...
  • Can link Tim Ross: ...(Net 50, -1998-2000) *Merrick Watts and Tim Ross - "Merrick and Rosso"...

Notes: The article text has not been changed in any way; Some of these links may be wrong, some may be right; You can leave positive feedback or negative feedback; Please feel free to delete this section from the talk page. -- Nickj 08:07, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Jay/Lindsay links

What to do with the following articles, so far as content and redirects go?

Frenzal Rhomb, Jay and the Doctor, Jason Whalley, Lindsay McDougall

I've set up the first two as their own articles, and the last two as redirects to Jay and the Doctor. I guess it is similar to Merrick and Rosso or Roy and HG, in that they are rarely known for the individual pursuits. (Compare to Adam and Wil, who each have their own "other things" that they are well known for.) -- Chuq 03:04, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Radio ratings

Does anyone know where rating can be acquired for free? It would be interesting to see.. I've heard Triple J's ratings are a lot better outside the five major cities, but would like some numbers to back it up. -- Chuq 04:47, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The Melb/Sydney ones linked in the header are the only ones I know of. I'm sure it does rate better in regional areas, it's very often the only radio station which plays modern music in rural/regional areas and judging by the callers to shows like super request, a good % of the audience is from regional areas. But I don't have the figures. Psychobabble

You can access them at AC Nielson's Media Research site - http://www.nielsenmedia.com.au/MRI_pages.asp?MRIID=11 , plus there is an archive http://www.acnielsen.com.au/radio_archive.asp . Reubot 07:26, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 schedule

- Chat room has not been renewed for 2005.

[edit] 30 Year anniversary

Triple J is coming up to its 30th anniverary in Jan 2005, and they have a page dedicated to collecting historical info: http://www2b.abc.net.au/triplej/30days30years/ - this could come in very handy! -- Chuq 02:35, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Target group

I know the article says that Triple J's target group is between the ages of 12 and 25, but the metropolitan radio rating surveys show that they have their highest market share in the 25-39 age range. I don't know how to work this into the article, though. Did Triple J peak in popularity in the 1980s, thus explaining why this age group prefers it despite not being the intended target group? - Mark 08:10, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)


I'd just like to say you've all done a fabulous job. :) --Randolph 09:26, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)


[edit] JJJ online

I am looking at this: [3]. I would like to include some information about triple J moving online since, to me at least, it's a really important aspect of triple J - especially the podcasts. Any ideas or pointers before I go ahead and add. I thought of adding maybe 1 or 2 paragraphs in the History under a new '2000 onwards' subsection. The website started in 1995 but has probably been more relevant in the 2000 onwards historical division. Thoughts? --Lisa 04:31, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jack the love nerd

If someone culd look at that articel and merge it in here if appropriate, would be great. 1 sentence wld probably be enough. Rich Farmbrough 12:06, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Like a Version?

Is it worth making some mention of Mel's "Like a Version" program here? It's been going for a while, and it seems to me quite a few popular covers are coming from it. pfctdayelise 15:09, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 Changes

  • Today Today has been confirmed as not coming back in 2006 (replaced by a show hosted by Robbie Buck)
  • Net 50 has been 'retired'
  • Graveyard Shift isnt returning
  • Return to the name "Three Hours of Power"???

[edit] Triple J vs triple j

If you look at the ABC website and the triple j website you will see that triple j is written in all lower case. I realise that it isn't possible to write the title in all lower case but shouldn't it be written as 'triple j' throughout the article rather than the present Triple J? --Zig c 10:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One night stand

Can anyone write more on this subject, Natimark was great. Enlil Ninlil 09:12, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Programs

I am putting all programs in without much content now, hope someone will fill out. I will do it over the next month. My spelling is also no good. Is this ok or too much info? Enlil Ninlil 01:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CD Compilations/Releases

It may be helpful to list all CDs released by triple j over the years; Full Metal Racket and Eleven are but two not shown on this page Mdgr 05:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Length

I think this article is too long. Perhaps it needs to have an abreviated history paragraph with a link to a main article Triple J History. Also I think the current presenters need to be on the main page but surely the long list of past presenters can be moved to a seperate article List of Triple J presenters?--TInTIn 08:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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