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[edit] Boilerplate

I think we need some type of boilerplate text for items that have been transwikied out of here, but not been deleted yet. Someone just added a variation to the wikipedia copy of a recipe I transwikied to wikibooks (Grilled cheese sandwich). Gentgeen 09:02, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

How about something like:

This page has been moved to [url Wiktionary] via the m:transwiki system. Please make future edits to the page there. This page has been listed for deletion. Angela. 00:45, Jan 27, 2004 (UTC)


I liked yours, then modified it to this:

The contents of this page and the page's history have been moved to interwiki:Transwiki:Article Name via the transwiki system, all future edits should go there. This page is now listed for deletion. Gentgeen 12:19, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I prefer that. I've copied it to m:Transwiki. Angela. 00:54, Feb 13, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] New proposal

Please see m:Talk:Transwiki for a proposal to move this, and all other transwiki logs, to Meta. Angela. 10:24, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Subheadings instead of bullets?

To minimise duplication and incorrect bulleting (evident on this project page), I suggest someone convert the proper bullets to subheadings, as I have done on mi:Wikipedia:Transwiki log. Robin Patterson 21:39, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

Transwiki redirects here, while Wikipedia:Transwiki redirects to Wikipedia:Things to be moved to Wiktionary which does not seem too logical. --Henrygb 00:17, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Transwiki for Commons

Has anyone thought about using transwiki for moving images to Wikimedia Commons? If not, how are people doing this currently? — Jeff Q (talk) 10:52, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New look

I'm thinking of redoing this page to look more like a project page. We need to encourage people to go through this long, and getting longer, list of especially dicdefs and deal with them. The pure dicdefs with no expansion should be merged and redirected or listed on vfd if no redirect exists. As of now it's just piling up without anyone getting arounfd to this. I'm thinking of implementing some sort of asterisk system where we could go through the list and mark the articles that have been dealt with by and asterisk. The page should have instructions at the top to guide users through these steps of dealing with transwikied articles that don't belong here. Any objections? --Dmcdevit 04:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

  • I don't see how asterisks would be any different from the current strikethru. The crux of the problem is that the to do list is dauntingly long, but it won't get any shorter unless the no-hopers are weeded out by VfD and the promising articles are expanded to at least stub length. Physchim62 20:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Saw Dmcdevit's cry for help somewhere and thought I'd stop by. . . . .Jeezly-Crow!! This thing is huge!! I'll do what I can to help out, but a suggestion that might make it easier would be to reorg the "wikitionary" section (by far the largest) either by Date or by alphabetizing, at least in groups of letters. Any thoughts? Soundguy99 15:18, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It was in order by date, until various sorting schemes were put in place and abandoned, so now it's not except for the recent part at the bottom. Sorting it by any way other than date would be harder then it sounds, because I'm adding new hordes of transwikied articles to this log every day, about, as I do them. I guess right now, what should be done before anything elseis to move all the striken through entries to the Archive to make this page smaller, then go through the log again. And your help is greatly appreciated. --Dmcdevit 20:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Um, well, maybe it should get sorted by date sooner rather than later, because right now every time I try to edit the wikitionary section (to help with cleanup) I get a "page not found" message or the page loads incompletely (the "editing this page" box appears, but blank, and there's no "header" stuff (top links to my stuff and left-side-of-the-page links to other Wikipedia stuff are blank.) This also happened on June 3, then I had reallife stuff to do, so haven't been back til now. Which is why I haven't done any actual cleanup yet - I can't get to the page. (!!) Based on past experience, this is due to server load plus (maybe) my being 56K dialup. However, when I edit a smaller section (like I just did with the Redirect instructions), no problem. In other words, once it's seperated into sections, the sections are "easier to get to." Hope this makes sense. In fact, if I can actually edit this page today, I think I'm gonna be bold and reorg the wikitionary section by date, to eliminate this problem. Soundguy99 13:48, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I just archived a huge bunch of resolved entries to make the page smaller and easier to handle (and it was not easy getting it past the server load, about 20 tries over half an hour). Will do more. --Dmcdevit 19:39, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Archive 2005 created

Links from the main page through to 15 March 2005 have been copied to Wikipedia:Transwiki log/Archive2. Two articles from that period remain unresolved: Physchim62 20:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Letter writing (moved to wikibooks)

[edit] Flocculation (moved to wiktionary)

[edit] CSD

Per the recently adopted expansions to CSD (see Wikipedia:Announcements and WP:CSD), it is no longer necessary to pass an article through VFD a second time, if the outcome was to transwiki the first time and it has been properly transwikied. FYI. Radiant_>|< 23:16, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tirsense

Tirsense needs to be transwikied. Forgive me, but I do not have the time to learn how to do that right now. --Fang Aili 19:59, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Send to AfD section needs updating

The Send to AfD section, in my opinion, should be updated to include the choice of using either AfD or the Proposed Deletion system to remove old articles. I am going to do this now, mentioning the option of using either one, although it seems to me that Prod is probably much better than AfD. As I'm a relatively new wikipedia editor, I'm not going to suggest Prod instead of AfD, as I don't want to make that major a change in the transwiki page without others telling me I'm right about it first. --Xyzzyplugh 08:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Is it ok to submit an article for deletion (either way) right after the content has been moved to the Transwiki: pseudo-namespace, or should we wait until the process is complete? Do things ever get "lost" during the process? Ardric47 23:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving edit history

The instructions on this project page say this:

After moving an article and its edit history, the article may be submitted for deletion.

I'd love to comply, but it's unclear how to move an article's edit history. Is it a matter of copying each subsequent version of the source article to subsequent revisions of the destination article, reproducing the edit comments each time? If so, does it matter that doing so drops the source revisions' author's usernames? The Rod (☎ Smith) 20:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please do not manually transwiki pages to Wikisource

Hi, I am writing this here to ask that users no longer manually transwiki pages from this project to Wikisource. There is an import space set up between the English Wikisource and this project. It is much prefered that we use Special:Import to do the work as that actually saves all of the edit histories (not just the copy/paste log that's added to the talk page of the articles). To request that pages be imported, you can leave a message at the Scriptorium until an actual page is created for such requests. Thanks!—Zhaladshar (Talk) 22:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Glossaries

I'm nominating some glossaries for transwiki to Wiktionary. The category structure there should be able to capture the fact that a bunch of words are all on the same topic. -- Beland 05:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Explanatory intro paragraph needed

From an AfD: "Keep/transwiki. It's sad that deletionists have become so impatient that they can't put a transwiki tag on an article and give people a few months to transwiki to the appropriate project. Do people here just not understand the concept of transwiking at all? --- RockMFR 01:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC) Keep! There is something really whacky going on here. How can this be considered a valid AfD before the transwiki has been done? --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 17:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC) Comment "Transwiki" (like "userfy") is a neologism created a couple of years ago. Many of the people who contribute to Wikipedia in various ways are not computer experts, and if there is an article explaing it a reference to that might be appreciated. All I see are computerspeak jargon loaded pages about backlogs and logs and templates, with no overview. To the naive outsider it would appear that anyone could save a copy of an article and upload it to another Wiki. I suppose the cryptic transwiki process might preserve added context such the edit history comments, or history of AfDs? It is not immediately clear why an article that could be copied and uploaded in a few minutes takes months to "transwiki" and why it has to stay in the mainspace under some type of suspended sentence of deletion, or why editors should have to leave an unencyclopedic article alone and mark their calendar for some unspecified number of months in the future to check back and see if it is gone, or put it on their personal watchlist and see every minute wikilink added, or comma removed, or vandalism added and reverted for several months.Edison 19:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)" Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_idioms_in_the_English_language_%28B%29"

So how about it? If you enter "transwiki" you get this article, which is a process log and a how-to, without the context which might be helpful when the "transwiki" term is thrown about. An intro paragraph would be very helpful. If someone does not understand "transwiki" when they come to this page, they may leave just as mystified. Thanks. Edison 20:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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