User talk:Torque

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Hello Torque, I am a German newbie trying to improve the German wiki article about the armenian genocide subject. I see you are very involved in that. Thank you. :-) Maybe you can help me. In the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide there is written something very interesting: . "Recently Sweden has changed its official position quoting the historical accuracy, and currently does not recognize Armenian genocide." I tried my best to find further information about that but was unsuccessfull. Maybe you can give me a link to that? TIA Nitec 01:08, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)


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[edit] Armenian Genocide

Would you please fix your statements in the article Armenian Genocide? You use the same paragraph twice, but with different numbers and terms. Compare:

In 1890 there were possibly around 1.7 million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, of whom the vast majority were of the Armenian Orthodox or Roman Catholic Christian faith. Until late 19th century, the Armenians were called "millet-i sadika" (fidel nation) by the Ottomans, as they were living in harmony with the Muslim Kurds and Turks in Eastern Anatolia, without any major conflict with the central authority despite religous and ethnic differences. While the Armenian population in Eastern Anatolia was large and clustered, there was also a considerably large community of Armenians on the west, mostly living in the capital city of Istanbul, of which a substantial community remains to this day.

and the very next paragraph:

In 1890 there were possibly around 1.3 million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, of whom the vast majority were of the Roman Catholic or Oriental Orthodox Christian faith. Until late 19th century, the Armenians were called "millet-i sadika" (faithful nation) by the Ottomans, as they were living in harmony with the Muslim Kurds and Turks in Eastern Anatolia, without any major conflict with the central authority despite religous and ethnic differences. While the Armenian population in Eastern Anatolia was large and clustered, there was also a considerably large community of Armenians on the west, mostly living in the capital city of Istanbul, of which a substantial community remains to this day. --brian0918 05:57, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] You're welcome

It's always nice to get compliments. Thanks! And don't hesitate to contact me if something needs explaining. Mgm|(talk) 10:05, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

Dear Torque, Please, contact me at tabibhus-at-gmail.com. I need to talk to you. --Tabib 12:30, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

I've now moved the older discussions to archiving pages. I haven't touched anything past, I think, February 8, as those discussions may still be ongoing. Mgm|(talk) 09:23, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Armenian genocide

It looks like Coolcat and Everyking have things under control. You could talk to them and ask how they feel about raising an RFC or RFAr against Fadex if he isn't willing to discuss and/or compromise. There's too much talk page material for me, to make an adequate reasoning about this user myself, but his deletions seem unwarranted. Good luck with things, and remember to back of for a while if anger gets the better of you. There's others keeping an eye out. :) Mgm|(talk) 10:27, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

  • Two new pages of propaganda? Can you give me the links to these? Mgm|(talk) 10:29, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Torque. I see that Fadix has made a request for mediation WP:RFM concerning Coolcat and the Armenian Genocide article. You might wish to become a party to that mediation. I don't think Fadix appreciates how unlikely it is that Wikipedia will declare his point of view to be the only one legitimate enough to be reflected in the article. That isn't how Wikipedia works. I don't think he realizes that mediation is about compromise and that starting a mediation and then be unwilling to compromise will not put him in a good light if the dispute subsequently goes to arbitration. --BM 18:14, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • RFC is short for request for comments and is part of dispute resolution (RFAr is request for arbitration). More info is on the respective pages. But let's see if RFM can change his mind first. (I'll go and give BM's talk page a read now). Mgm|(talk) 20:18, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
I may have removed your questions if you added them recently. If that's the case, they should be in Archive 10.
Be advised Fadex has other discrete Armenian Genocide articles scatered around wikipedia. All I am trying to do is make this neutral. My intention is not to take sides. --Cool Cat My Talk 23:04, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Choosing the person to mediate your case is a basic principle of mediation. All mediators should follow the NPOV policy, and I doubt they'd violate that. If they do, you can always ask for action against them. Do you know which mediator Fadix chose? Mgm|(talk) 22:13, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Please stop attacking Fadix as a person. This is not permitted on Wikipedia. --01:38, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC) - unsigned Tony Sidaway

While I understand dealing with fadix is difficukt and that his insults towards you are intolerable, I recomend you dont go as low as his level to refer to persoanl attacks. --Cool Cat My Talk 19:32, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fadix

I need asistance tracking down all POV oriented edits by Fadix. --Cool Cat My Talk 05:19, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)