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[edit] Luka Špik

My guess is that your Slovenian-admin backrground means you will understand perfectly what i did with the article you created, and that most of what i wrote in the summaries and on the talk page will matter only to others than you. But ask me a question if you don't. Thanks!
--Jerzy•t 03:33, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Correct method of moving pages

Please do not perform cut and paste moves as you did with Novo Mesto. This separates the talk page from the article and causes the history of the page to disappear. See Wikipedia:How to rename (move) a page for the proper procedure on moving pages.

The correct English name for Nove Mesto is with both words capitalized. See Talk:Novo Mesto for citations.

AjaxSmack 02:35, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Acknowledged. Regards, --Tone 14:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I didn't get the memo.

Sheesh, do you know how much work I have to undo now? Crazy Canadians! How dare they get my shows before me!  :) --Bark 21:08, 27 February 2006

[edit] Thank you

For sorting out the AFD. I see it has now been deleted (if it's Kieran W, not if it's the Pokémon thing). DavidFarmbrough 09:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hey, Thanks for the Barnstar and for all the work that you've been doing on the Olympics pages. Sue Anne 22:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oscar Temps

I really think they need to be near the bottom next to the filmographies, as there is much more room usually, and it looks better style wise and fits in place. Crumbsucker 16:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I put them on the top in the same spirit as the olympic medalists have the medals at the beginning. But I am opened for a discussion, where shall we put it? Regards, --Tone 16:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, i guess the ones that are very slim could go near the top, but the long ones (Streep for exmaple) don't look well with the article's text and in some cases block out text. It would be best to keep those types right next to the filmographies. Crumbsucker 17:03, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I agree that it is sometimes unconvenient. Maybe we should just modify the template? In either case, we should stick to the same pattern in every case. I opened a discussion at: Template talk:OscarTop and I hope there will be some constructive suggestions. --Tone 17:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

I'm leaving this macrophage, a particularly hungry white blood cell on your talk page, I just finished a rewrite of its article and realized they're not so different from administrators, as they keep their surroundings clean, doing away with anything that's not supposed to be there...
Anyway, with that short lecture on cell biology done with, I'd like to thank you for your vote on my RfA, which passed with (49/2/0), I'll do my best to not let you down, and if you see me heading towards a common newbie mistake, please nudge me in the right direction :)

--Obli (Talk)? 20:40, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JDoorjam's RfA

 Thank you!
Hey Tone/Archive1, thank you for your support in my RfA: it passed with a final tally of 55/1/2. If you want a hand with anything, please gimme a shout. Again, thanks! – JDoorjam Talk 21:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hey Tone/Archive1, how is it going? Thank you for supporting my Request for adminship! It passed with a final vote of 73/1/1, which means that I have been granted adminship! I look forward to using these tools to enhance and maintain this wonderful site. I will continue regular article/project contributions, but I will also allocate a sizable portion of my wikischedule toward administrative duties :) Thanks again, and if you have any questions/comments/tips, please let me know! — Deckiller 04:49, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need some help with a POV problem

I need help unbiasing a whole category of the Wikipedia: French wine. First, I should explain the bias. There's a certain editor that has infiltrated almost every French wine entry to insert long edits about a certain string of expositions and International tastings in the 70s and 80s when French wine was dealt a sobering blow. California wines, which had been before unknown and very lowly regarded by the worls market, dominated many of these very influential tastings.

At first, and still, many of these entries went out of their way to tout the California wines that won (this on the articles pertaining to one French wine or another). I objected, and SOME of the California wine trumpeting was toned down, however volume-wise the descriptions of these tastings more often that not outweigh the whole rest of the article. As I dug into this user's history regarding his edits on French wine I find that they are almost 100% an effort to tout these tastings and almost 0% addition of substantive, unbiased information. There is an inherent bias in the statements alone, which I can clean up easily. However, the tastings are a historical fact and cannot be denied as such. I even concur with this now-unnamed editor that they serve some significance in the history of French wine. However, to prove my point I will use a quick analogy:

If an editor of a major monthly news magazine sits down to choose the 10 articles he or she can include in the upcoming issue, he/she probably draws from hundreds if not thousands of potential news stories. If the editor chooses stories that ONLY criticise or debase one country, person, or entity, no matter how factually accurate the articles were, that editor would be rightfully accused of a negative bias. This unnamed editor that I speak of has added almost nothing substantive to any article regarding French wine and has spent almost all of his efforts going in depth on the crushing blow dealt to French wine during these tastings. To boot, he has also mentioned specific non-French brands in these same arguments that would make me suspect him of a vested interest.

When I look at the contributions by this same editor on the subject of California wines, I see again in depth explanations of how California wines dominated these tastings. In this setting those entries are almost germane. However, more importantly, what I don't see is any mention of any California wine failings. If his primary concern seems to be how good California wines are and how bad French wines are, I would say that constitutes a bias.

Now, I'm writing to you not to beg for some sort of administrative action, but to ask you how I can proceed in order to bring some small amount of integrity to French wine entries. I have refrained from major counter-edits and have instead left messages on his user talk page as well as here and here with no response. I believe it is still too early to say that I am being ignored--most of these talk entries I've made are less than 48 hours old. He is listening to me, having edited a few of the articles to support the objectivity of the tastings, which is not in dispute. It's that he chooses to spend all his efforts on the negative that makes me suspect him of a negative POV and seeking to further a negative agenda. I really don't want an edit war here and would rather forge a middle ground. However, if he refuses to respond to me and explain his motivations, what do you think the best course of action is? If we can't come to a compromise, what is a common course of action from there?

Thank you very much for your time. --BridgeBurner 20:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not an expert on the field but I appreciate a good wine nevertheless. I had a look at the articles and the edits that you mentioned and I suggest you take the following steps:
  • First, you should just wait a couple of days to see if you get a response from the editor in question. It is always the best thing to reach a compromise.
  • I admit I find the edits in question not really in favour of the French wines. Still, if they are accurate the thing you can do is for example omitting a great part of the The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 and other major competitions paragraph in the Château Haut-Brion article and removing a great deal of Trends in French wine since they are not essencial for these articles but might still be worth to mention. Especially The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 and other major competitions paragraph should be renamed into Château Haut-Brion at the competitions or something like that.
  • And the last thing for now, since you seem to know a lot about the topic you can improve the articles and set a good example. There is still a plenty to be told about the wines.
I hope I helped you with the suggestions. For now, just keep an eye on the editor and tell me the outcome. If you have other questions or problems, you are always welcome to ask. Regards, Tone 20:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your advice. I think it's sane to step back for awhile, leave my comments, and see what happens. He seems to have infiltrated the Bordeaux and Burgundy entries pretty well, but not Rhone, which are in bad need of help. So, I'll work on Rhone for awhile and let the pot boil down. Not to mention the best approach is usually to emphasize constructive building, not derogatory ripping down. You should know that the problem is a lot more widespread than I've shown you. He has deposited this same sort of thing across dozens of article, so it will be an uphill battle. I needed some legitimacy to my claims before I began, and I thank you for that. Be that as it may, I'll lay low on those pages for a few days.
I agree with, and would be okay with, entries in each of the five major French wines that were unseated in those tastings, but only as a sidenote and under a different heading. There's an article already existant for several of these tastings, so a brief synopsis and links to those articles is sufficient, in my mind. Whether or not this editor sees it the same way, we'll see.
Again I thank you. I am a relatively new Wikipedia contributor and I greatly aprpeciate your guidance. --BridgeBurner 21:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

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Thanks for your support in my RfA. It passed, with a final tally of 62/0/1. I'm touched by all the kind comments it attracted, and hope I'll be of some use with my new tools. You know where I am if you need to shout at me. Flowerparty■ 15:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikibreak

I hope you get everything done that you need to while on Wikibreak - let it be relaxing! -- Natalya 16:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

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  • All the best Tone with the seminar. I am also a physics student, and the same thing will probably happen to me sometimes over the next few years.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 00:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Good to hear that things are going well! -- Natalya 22:53, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stub sorting

Just wanted to let you know that you incorrectly sorted Principle of minimum energy into the classical mechanics stub. This principle is wide reaching, as the article shows, and belongs in the general physics stub.--J S Lundeen 21:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree, this sort was not perfect. Sometiems it's hard to tell where to put something since the fields are close to each other. Notify me if you find another mistakes. Thanks. --Tone 12:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Thank you for your recent vote on my RFA. While the nomination failed, I was rather expecting it due to the big lapse between registration and recent edits. Anywho, if you have any suggestions as to how I could improve so as to hopefully succeed next time, please let me know! Thanks! —akghetto talk 07:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Successful RfA

Thanks for your support on my recent RfA, which I am pleased to say passed with a final tally of 80/1/1. If you ever need any help, or if I mess something up as an admin, please let me know.

Cactus.man ✍ 20:58, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Thanks Tone/Archive1
Thanks for your recent support on my RfA which passed 91/0/0. If you ever need anything, feel free to leave me a message! Gflores Talk 05:50, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks!

Image:WikiThanks.png Hi Tone! Thank you for supporting my RfA. It passed at 105/1/0, putting me in WP:100 - I'm delighted and surprised! I'm always happy to help out, so if you need anything, please drop me a line. Cheers! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 20:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

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Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi, thanks for your welcoming message! Procrastinator-General 23:55, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

My RfA recently closed and it was a success, passing at 84-02-00. I would like to thank you for taking the time to weigh in and on your subsequent support. And I know it's quite cliche, but if you ever need any assistance and/or want another opinion on something, grab a Pepsi and don't hesitate to drop me a line on my talk page. Thanks again. Pepsidrinka 04:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ah! My Goddess: Everyone has wings!

It is very rare for someone fixing something I unintentionaly left out on articles related to Ah! My Goddess series. I thank you and invite you to expanding such articles. :) --Cool CatTalk|@ 20:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the Welcome

Although, I found it odd that I got a 'new user' greeting after almost a year of here-and-there contributions. No worries, though...it's nice to feel welcomed. Aerodave 13:27, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Conrad Vish

I saw you welcomed the user above, but your {{helpme}} turned into the full template, putting this user on the [[Category:Wikipedians looking for help]]. I changed your <code> tag into a <nowiki> tag. Please check your welcome to see that it doesn't happen again. Thanks. Jfingers88 01:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

It turns out it was User:ZsinjBot. Sorry. Jfingers88 02:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the well-wishes. I hope your exams go well too! -- Natalya 03:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

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Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sg-1 episodes

yeah, the reason none of those pages were made, were because we dont know the official titles of them.... like rescue op is now called 'Company of Thieves'. just fyi, probably not a good idea until we get official word.... rescue op just described the episode, what it was probably gonna be about....but, just fyi, for future reference Xornok 18:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I will wait with making more in future. Leave the present ones for now, we can remane them later. --Tone 18:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
i moved rescue to company, so, dont worry about that Xornok 18:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You for the Welcome =)

I appriciate the welcome you gave me. It's nice to know someone knows of my existence here and is willing to help. :P Thanks again, and I hope we can work together in the future. :) Darknut Slayer 19:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

(PS = Thanks for the "four tides" note. I thought it was a bit hard to continually say "User:____ all of the time. Thanks.)

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