Talk:Tong (organization)

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This article should be split into one about the secret societies, and another for the snurnames. --Yuje 16:32, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Done.--Yuje 15:23, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Should "tong" and "triad" be capitalized in these articles? That seems wrong to me. -grant 15:56, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Seems it shouldn't to me, since they're both generic terms. I've down-cased them. hateless 18:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tongs are not gangs

From the San Francisco Chronicle:

"With any organization, you have a certain percentage of people who may go sideways on you and become organized into criminal activity," said Nelson Lowe, a senior FBI agent and expert in Asian organized crime.
"Although they are associated with a tong, they are not representative of what a tong stands for." [1]

And from my own research from when I was in college, tongs should be considered mutual protection first, organized criminal activity second, especially for the modern tongs. They aren't the mob, they don't flaunt the law as a part of their mission statement, but they do go astray. I've edited out as much of the bias as I can from the first paragraph, although I think we need a new title, I can't think of a good succinct one right now. "Tong (clandestine society)" doesn't work for me right now... hateless 18:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

How about "Tong (Chinese social organization)"? airphloo 18:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)