Talk:Tonality diamond

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...the diamond marimba, which is laid out as a tonality diamond and which has proven rather popular.

Really? Where can I get one for cheap? =P ——Keenan Pepper 22:07, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

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from para. 1 "The tonality diamond is often regarded as comprising the set of consonances of the n-limit. The term is due to Harry Partch."

But the Harry Partch page states "Partch's tuning had its origin in an extended version of Max Meyer's tonality diamond..."

I don't have my copy of Genesis of A Music handy, and don't remember who Max Meyer is/was.

Genesis has this to say about Max Meyer:

Max F. Meyer (b. 1873), psychologist, takes the trouble, in The Musician's Arithmetic, to state the case for ratios as a nomenclature for musical materials, these being the only terms "safe from ambiguity." Meyer uses what Monophony would call identities through 9 (including 7), disavows both overtones and undertones as constituting the source of tonality, and, somewhat disappointingly, applies his ideas to a "quartertone" harmonium (see Chapter 17).

See also Meyer's Diamond and Partch's Diamond. —Keenan Pepper 21:44, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. According to Cris Forster's page, Meyer's diamond looks just like Partch's, only rotated and (not to quote Spinal Tap, but) Partch's "goes to 11." I think this line should be credited to Meyer, not Partch. Namrevlis 22:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Meyer is the authentic creator of the tonality diamond for one reason only: he studied the works of Rameau. If you don't understand the problems faced by Rameau, you won't understand the solutions offered by Meyer. -Cris Forster