Talk:Tomislav II of Croatia, 4th Duke of Aosta
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Surely it's rather inappropriate to use the title "Tomislav II of Croatia"? This person never really was anything like an actual monarch of Croatia, and for anyone who respects the legend of the first king Tomislav it's pretty offensive to have such an imposter exploit the name. --Shallot 23:11, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I've moved the page accordingly. --Shallot 11:57, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I have no real complaint, but his grandfather Amadeus I of Spain was nothing like a real monarch of Spain either - but they still get listed as kings. Are any 21st century kings and queens (apart perhaps from Monaco and Lichtenstein) real monachs? --Henrygb 20:51, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- The point is, at least they have some recognition, maybe even some actual power over some matters. On the other hand, this person was a real puppet, not much unlike the state he was supposed to state to rule over, and there it was the Ustase paramilitary that had the upper hand. I don't remember him getting even a single mention in the history classes over here in Croatia, and we covered the local WWII events in considerable detail. --Shallot 21:03, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I believe Tomislav II. should be listed here as king.
Yes, although it may have been as a puppet and all, it was still his highest ranking and most important title. I've compromised on the title, so it is a bit strange. Yanksta x 054:10, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Yanksta, I understand you had good intentions, but the current title is the worst possible variant. "Tomislav II of Croatia, Duke of Aosta" -- to me, this implies that a certain Tomislav of the Croatian royal family was named Duke of Aosta, and that there was a Tomislav I, Duke of Aosta before him. It's so silly. Either "Tomislav II of Croatia", either "Aimone, 4th Duke of Aosta". But preferably the latter: please note that Tomislav was only designated King, with the official title of 'Prince' (i.e. ruling prince). Unlike Amédée of Spain, he was never sworn in, nor crowned. Aimone didn't even set foot in Croatia during his so-called reign! --SáT 16:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have any detail about his fascist leaning? Wright123 23:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
