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Contents 1 Major changes as of 02/02/06 2 Influence 3 Nude Raider 4 External Links 5 Save differences 6 Album title 7 St. Francis Folly 8 Nude Raider (console) 9 Anniversary Edition 10 My site

[edit] Major changes as of 02/02/06

New page for the entire game, designed to gather all info on the original Tomb Raider. The Tomb Raider series page now exists to give an overview of the franchise. Note that some people may think that this page contains too much info on gameplay but I feel it is necessary to explain the basics of a Tomb Raider game at least once, so we don't need to get back on it in every sequel. We can just refer to this page then. I will add some info on the Glidos alterations later on. Cheers --Steerpike 00:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Influence

The game is widely considered to be among the best and most influential games ever made.

Isn't that wording a bit over the top? Tomb Raider did have quite a bit of impact, but "most influential games ever made"? How about "most influential games of its time" or something along the lines? -- Grumbel 01:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I think it *is* one of the most influential games ever made, and on several levels more than just gameplay. I know it's difficult to back up that sort of claim with good specific references but I tried to explain Tomb Raider's impact on the gaming industry a little more detailed in the Legacy section. And its impact was undeniable. For starters it was one of the very first "working" 3D games that operated with a 3rd person view. The graphics were revolutionary, the approach to plot was a lot more cinematic and Lara Croft herself became one of the most recognizable icons in video gaming. I think it redefined a genre. After Tomb Raider video game companies were scrambling to think of a character as exciting as Lara Croft.

And to get back to gameplay, most players may not immediately notice but Tomb Raider somewhat slighly introduced gameplay mechanics that have pretty much become standard: free 360° look, autotargeting, 180° turn,... Everyone may disagree with me but I think Tomb Raider is in league with Doom or Sonic the Hedgehog or Metal Gear Solid as one of the most iconic/influential games ever made.

One final note: "ever made" may sound a bit like a stretch but I might remind everyone that the video gaming industry is relatively young anyway. 20 years or something. :) --Steerpike 10:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

The part I find questionable is the expression "is widely considered". Read more at Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words.

[edit] Nude Raider

The facts regarding the nude raider patch are:

• There was a 3rd party "patch" for the PC version. No one from Core or Eidos was involved
• There is no secret code or any other method for creating a nude Lara in any console version. It was hard enough cramming in the whole game onto the disc without extra graphics
• nuderaider.com was awarded to Eidos Interactive as part of the settlement

Source: MrMarmite: Me, Ex-Director of Development and WebMaster at Eidos Interactive US

I'm considering moving the Nude Raider section back to Tomb Raider series. It doesn't apply as much to this game as it does to the entire series. --Steerpike 23:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

MrMarmite: The nude raider patch in question was only made available for TR1, and that should be noted in any move. However, I think it might better be placed in the Tomb Raider series.

Oh ok, I was wondering about that. I thought Nude Raider patches were written for every Tomb Raider game. I don't mind if it stays in this article then (but I won't be moving it back if someone decides to move it to Tomb Raider series. Either way suits me). --Steerpike 10:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

This page has a lot of external links that aren't directly involved with the original game. Some of them would definitely be better suited to the Tomb Raider series page or Tomb Raider Legend. If someone would weed out the wrong links... --Steerpike 12:15, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

UPDATE: I did some clean-up myself. But there are still a few links that are probably better suited to Tomb Raider series. Also, this general notice: I don't like it when people add links without description, or put the same link in *every* Tomb Raider game page when it's not relevant to the game at hand. --Steerpike 14:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Save differences

I remember even differences for the saving points among Playstation and Saturn versions. While the "saving crystals" could be used over and over again in the PS version, they disappeared after using them once in the Saturn version - am I correct? --Abdull 12:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

PS version has vanishing save crystals too. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 22:22, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Album title

My copy of Tomb Raider has "Getting Naked" as the disc album title. I'll mention this in the article if someone can verify it. Alksub 03:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

"Getting Naked" was the name of the single Rhona Mitra recorded as Lara Croft. I'm not aware of any version of the game which included the songs. Also, Rhona modelled as Lara for Tomb Raider II, so that could be a bonus of a specific re-release. ~Treeble

[edit] St. Francis Folly

This has always intrigued me; anybody knows why level 5 is named St. Francis folly? I hoped to find an answer here. Siggie 17:59, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nude Raider (console)

Contrary to rumor, there is no method of creating a nude Lara in any console version of the game.

If memory serves, I have a British gaming magazine that has the Exploder (or one of the PAL cheat devices) code to make Lara 'appear' nude. Anyone know about this? If pressed, I could always find the mag.

Gamesmaster perhaps? I think you're right about the code. --Steerpike 01:34, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

No, it was a print magazine specifically covering PS1 games. I just moved and will be going through the mags soon enough.

[edit] Anniversary Edition

I've reworked the so called Anniversary Edition controversy section, removed unsourced statements, and unencyclopedic material. I've also added new information and sourced all the claims. If you can improve it furthermore, please do so. --Svetovid 23:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My site

I think my tombraider site contains important information that isn't on wikipedia, so do not delete it from the external links.

What's the url? Btw, please sign your comments using --~~~~ --Steerpike 18:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)