Talk:Tom Goes to the Mayor

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[edit] Its awesomeness is significant...

You'll notice that if you Google Tom Goes to the Mayor, the sites with the most hits are either sites about the show from the creators or from [adlt swim], or they are hate sites. I'm sure there are people who like this show, but there's a hundred people who know it is awful, for each one who thinks its brilliant. Just ignore it, it will go away

It's satire, and the quirky way it's made is something you do have to get used to. Take it as what it is, it's no fantasia. If you've ever lived in a small town, there's bound to be something there you find humorous. It's definitely not for everybody. --Hrodulf 19:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's definitely for me. I find it hilarious. People bash it because it's different than all the other shows on TV, which are roughly the same. If they would just learn to understand it, they would find a magic beyond their wildest dreams. Thank you. -The Hams 14:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

No offense The Hams, but have you personally spoken with eveyone who "bashes the show"? Not speaking to one specific person but why is this talk page a discussion on who likes and dislikes the show? This isn't Uncyclopedia. Gemfire 01:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Allygator...

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IMO, this show is bad... Will 06:53, 4 January 2005 (UTC)

I think it's pretty bad too, and it took me a while to get it, but it is an allegory: Tom represents Tim and Eric, the two people who make the show. "The Mayor" represents everyone at Adult Swim who can apparently get suckered into going along with any idea. The City Council represents the viewers of adult swim, who aren't usually fans of Tom's ideas, especially the way in which the Mayor runs with them and screws them up. So, Tom comes up with bad ideas, and then convinces the Mayor to waste the city's money on them, all the while the people who the Mayor should be listening to complain without being heard. Abek 03:30, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

...Wow. I certainly hope that isn't it, but it sounds like it hits the nail on the head. --Andy Janata 04:53, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

That's not it. All TGTTM is is a hilarious show. Its originality and hilarity should be applauded! And your allegory is flawed: the show is drifting away from its formulaic Tom has an idea, Mayor f's it up, formula. It's getting more diverse, more hilarious, and I think I'm the only person on the Earth who likes it. :( -The Hams 14:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

So...a wiki page devoted to TGTTM is now a mini-forum for why people hate the show. In the name of good-natured discourse, I would pose some questions. First, did you folks come to the page just to justify your hatred? Something akin to an evangelical looking up pornography just to make sure that it's repulsive and sinful? Second, did you know there's a web-site just for you? If you'd bothered to read the article, you'd have seen that there's an on-line petition calling for the cancellation of the show. Why not go there and sign it? Then you can see the true caliber of the average "Tom-hater", who express their dislike eloquently, using broken e-jargon, non-existant grammar, and excessive profanity. Why not add your allegorical analysis to the intellectual stew? And finally, as to your allegory (which is clever, by the way) I'm sure Tim and Eric first thought of that when they were trying to develop a show - who wouldn't want to make a television show that people would so openly revile? I can easily see them saying, "let's make this as unfunny as possible, so fans of fine comedy such as Sealab 2021 or Harvey Birdman will turn up their noses in disgust!" Totally plausible.

But enough questions. Here's a suggestion - why not further deconstruct an 11-minute cartoon based on absurdism? Perhaps something about Tom's strained relation with his wife symbolizing the state of marriage in American culture? Better yet, write a 15-page essay on the symbolism of Tom Goes to the Mayor. Have it on my desk by Friday - no extentions! -- Thesmokingmonkey 11:11, 11JUL05 (UTC)

Sheesh, what a "Steven." - Laszlo Panaflex 10:02, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

Indeed. --TSM 12:43, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

also, i am gay --71.13.130.7 09:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, rats off to ya, IP 71.13.139.7. I honestly don't get why people hate this show. :\ I find it hilarious. It's different, but once you "get" its sense of humor, you're addicted. -The Hams 14:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tom's postcards

On several episodes, Tom sends postcards to Joy which include him posing in apparently sexual positions. --24.1.63.132 04:44, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Why Tom Goes to the Mayor rules

Its funny --65.185.108.175 00:59, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Most people who did like this show are like the invisible man that commented before me here apparently. I'm just surprised he didn't say "Its teh funny", ala many of the people on the AS boards.

Tom had some potential, but it always came off awkward, and I think the world is better off that it's gone now. Karmafist 18:27, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

It's not canceled you stupid >: --69.252.200.224 08:24, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

It's Very Funny --24.209.106.211 02:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

It's good because it's bad. GET IT! HA HA HA HA! --206.190.139.254 20:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

It really strikes me as a hit-or-miss show. When it misses, it misses, but when it hits, it HITS! -65.122.209.147 04:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I find it a very hilarious show. It's not good because it's bad, it's just plain good. It doesn't have potential, it's reached it, exploited it, had its way with it, and currently wears it on its head like an asshat. I applaud TGTTM, and they better hurry up and release it on freakin' DVD already, along with Perfect Hair Forever. -The Hams 14:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral?

People who don't like Tom: "The basic criticism made by those who dislike the show is that it is poorly written and animated, thus making it cost very little to produce; as a result, Adult Swim saves money with it, so AS promotes the show with zeal, often giving it preferable timeslots that fan-favorite shows used to have."

People who do like Tom:"This is the essence of Tom Goes to the Mayor - the complete haplessness of Tom and his travails as a hyper-tragic figure against an absurdist backdrop."

This article definately needs cleanup.BenvolioZF 05:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

And this condescending gem: "It is worth noting that most of the people who don't like the show are of below-average intelligence and simply don't "get" it's humor." --anon

Ha ha, anon. XD While I agree with that statement, I did not make it, and it shouldn't be there. :P -The Hams 15:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It's okay...

I haven't seen but a few episodes. What was the name of the one with the crab claws and the "ric a tick tock tick tock tock" song? That one was hilarious. VincentGross 06:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Vehicular Manslaughter. 72.200.136.66 04:29, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

And again in CNE. -The Hams 15:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Married News Team

I would love to see more info on this page about the Married News Team characters. Manufracture 03:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

There's not much to know. They're married, their names are Jan and Wayne Skylar, and they host a news show. They have a calendar and in one episode, Jan turned into a mutant. They look a lot like Tom and the Mayor because they're played by the same actors. They're hilarious and add a new dimension to the show. -The Hams 15:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tom's Car

When I went to Poland in the summer of 2004 I loved the little car called the maluch. They're all over the place since they cost almost nothing to own and get about 52mpg. They're also basically unchanged since the 1960s. They're tiny, and they sound like lawnmowers. When I first saw Tom's car I laughed so hard since that's what he drives! Awesome.
Kether83 07:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVD Release

Can anyone verify the DVD release information? Subliminalis 02:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Abso-LUTELY Guy?

Where did they get that clip? Is it someone with the show, or a found object? Anybody know? -65.122.209.147 04:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWorSepWyJQ - extrafacelol

Very nice, extrafacelol! Added that to external links section. -65.122.209.135 03:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How stupid is The Mayor really?

Has anyone thought that perhaps The Mayor is NOT a hapless idiot, and actually ENJOYS torturing Tom? Any online theories on this?-65.122.209.135 03:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sprite comics

I have removed the comment that said that the animation style is vaguely similar to sprite comics. For one, I can't make any reasonable comparisons at all (what do they actually have in common except for both being in 2D?) and being vaguely similar doesn't seem to make it worth mentioning. The Mekon 14:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)