Talk:Today (song)

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The previous format of the chart positions was consistant with other articles on Wikipedia of the same type. If nobody justifies why it was changed, I am changing it back. -- LGagnon 03:36, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)

Hi LGagnon, I hope I didn't offend. I changed it because 1) I don't see why it should be presented in typewriter font, and 2) I don't see why the song name should be repeated on every line. But it's not a big deal to me. --Dbenbenn 22:45, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I wasn't offended; I just wanted to keep the article consistant with the current style model. If you still think it would be better a different way, you can talk with the guys who run the music Wikiproject; they decide the standard for how the articles for albums and singles are done. But if you'd rather not, that's fine. -- LGagnon 00:12, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

I didn't find anything at Wikiproject Albums addressing chart positions. I'll bring up the issue there. By the way, Pieces of Me is an example of a single that does it differently. Though I agree the fixed-width format is most common. --Dbenbenn 00:39, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for taking up the task. The more concensus we get on such things, the sooner we improve Wikipedia's consistency. -- LGagnon 01:31, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

It seems like the table format has become the preferred one lately, and I was told during a FAC nomination for another article that I should change the format to the table. I do think the tables look nicer. Everyking 00:45, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I don't really have anything against the table format. My only concern is with the uniformity of the articles; after all, Wikipedia looks more professional when there is a consistent style to it. -- LGagnon 01:31, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

The non-tabled version is what we've been using, I guess out of tradition and because nobody wanted to do the work of making something pretty. I think DCEdwards has been the prime force in switching to the tabled version. Tuf-Kat 08:21, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

I feel that this song isn't necessarily ironic or sarcastic, although you could interpret it that way. I always found the lyric "Today is the greatest day of them all" sincere since the singer is uplifted knowing today he will commit suicide. So I changed the article a little so there isn't the claim the songs lyrics are sarcastic, but if you think my view is bogus let's talk about it. Rab V 08:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it's sarcastic... just with the happy little guitar in the begining completely contradicting what's expect from a song about suicide... I'd just change the first sentence back to saying it's ironically upbeat. Underwater 01:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but if you think that the singer might also be honetly happy thinking today he is going to end his life, or at least see this could be a valid interpretation I don't think we should lay down one way of understanding the song like it is absolute. Rab V 02:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)