Talk:Tobi Vail

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Maybe elaborate on relationship with Kurt? It apparently affected him deeply.

-I added what I read in Heavier than Heaven and Come as you are but someone edited it out as an attack on Charles Cross

The phrase in the TOBY VAIL section, "met with resistance and misunderstanding from a male dominated rock scene" is probably not an accurate description of the musical environment of Olympia, Washington at that time. Bikini Kill seemed to be predicated upon opposing such a rock scene, and were powered by such a reaction--but the scene in Olympia, WA was comparatively welcoming to mostly-female bands like Bikini Kill. It is much more likely that Bikini Kill themselves would like to be remembered as withstanding 'resistance and misunderstanding,' but this may be hopeful thinking on their, or a fervent fan's part. BK were no more or less met with resistance than any other of the many unconventional bands in Olympia, WA at that time. It is fairest to remember Oly as a rock scene that FOSTERED bands like Bikini Kill. Had BK been born in a less liberal environment, the description would be more or less accurate.

sorry to whoevers put that other tobi vail picture on and i took it off, its not a question of mines better than yours its just thats such an iconic fucking riot grrrly image and quality bk pictures can be hard to find, and that other one you can be pretty easily found on myspace