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Monk's Diner

Monk's Diner has been proposed for deletion. An editor felt this website might not yet be notable enough for an article. Please review Wikipedia:Notability (websites) for the relevant guidelines. If you can improve the article to address these concerns, please do so.

If no one objects to the deletion within five days by removing the "prod" notice, the article may be deleted without further discussion. If you remove the prod notice, the deletion process will stop, but if an editor is still not satisfied that it meets Wikipedia guidelines, it may be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion for consensus. NickelShoe (Talk) 03:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Bobby Lashley

Well if you look we are using the new format to display titles that removes the need of succession boxes by giving that information and more with out the tables messing up the flow of the articles... this has already been put in place to replace the old format in various other articles including Batista... if you have any further quieries please add them to the Wikiproject page for pro wrestling --- Paulley

Free Country

This is Wikipedia, anyone can edit. I can edit the title lengths if I want to. Thanks, User: Clay4president

I agree this is nonsense to argue over this.

How early are you going to set the belt lengths? 2 hours before midnight?

And you complain about me starting at 10:09! You starting at 10:15 isn't any better!

Okay, we agree you get even days and I get odd. I was wondering how far this was gonna go. I was just thinking about making peace this afternoon. Thanks, User:Clay4president

Ken Kennedy Vandalism

Expect more of this, vandalizing Wiki is becoming a mini-fad on GameFAQs PWB. Just a heads up. Trosk 23:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, TJ Spyke! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. TBCTaLk?!? 07:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Great American Bash

I don't want to fight on this, but Batista vs. Henry was announced for the Bash.

World Championship

I see your point about ECW. But since the 80's the WWF Championship has been recognized b PWI as being a world title since 1963

My thought is when a Championship is recognized as a World Championship it stays a World Title until in discontinued by its home promotion i.e. when the company goes out of business, except when it's revived by a successor organization (i.e. ECW (WWE) & AWA).

What are my recognized Championships you may ask?

World Heavyweight Championship (WWE) of WWE SmackDown!

WWE Championship of WWE RAW

ECW World Heavyweight Championship of ECW (WWE)

NWA World Heavyweight Championship of NWA (Current owned by TNA)

AWA World Heavyweight Championship of AWA: Superstars of Wrestling

AJPW Triple Crown World Heavyweight Championship of AJPW

IWGP World Heavyweight Championship of New Japan

Defunct: WCW International World Heavyweight Championship of WCW

WCW World Heavyweight Championship of WCW (I recognized it to be the processor of the World Heavyweight Championship (WWE))

WWA World Heavyweight Championship of WWA

World Heavyweight Championship (Omaha) of AWA

BionicWilliam 00:00, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Naruto

Look, I am not going through the same nonsense with you that I went through with The Wretched. Do me a favor. Click that link (it leads to the relevant section of his talk page), read what it says, and leave the article be. Naruto: Clash of Ninja (video game) and Naruto: Clash of Ninja 2 (video game) are the original articles. I did not add the (video game) tag at the end, I only decapitalized it. If you want the page moved, ask an administrator. Don't do copy/paste moves. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 14:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, if you don't stop, I'm going to report you for vandalism. You are using copy/paste moving to move a page. Wait for an admin to move it for you.
See these links? They prove that I'm right. I'm getting tired of correcting these mistakes. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 21:57, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
It's not a merger, it's a requested move. A request has already been filed. Leave it be for a few days and it'll be fine. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 22:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

GameCube category

Most, if not all, of the articles you added [[Category:Gamecube games]] to is redundant of [[Category:GameCube only games]]. I would suggest that you revert those changes. Thunderbrand 16:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

There actually is a reason for them not be included into both. If you look at Cat:GameCube only games, you'll notice that it is a subcategory of Cat:GameCube games, which means that articles categorized in GameCube only games are also categorized in GameCube games without having to put the latter in the article. This way, it keeps the GameCube games category from becoming cluttered with games already present in GameCube only games. Robert 22:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

WWE title on WWE page

Damn you're fast. --Dubhagan 03:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

ECW Championship

You asked where do they recognize them? And PWI recognizes it as an official heavyweight championship. I suggest wrestlers who held the ECW title like Sandman, who held it 5 times, have his number changed back. — The King of Kings 01:27 July 06 '06

Well just as the groups as indicated. I just happened to stumble upon this page: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/. It will ease the process of finding this information. I feel so dumb after finding this page, but I think its a good idea that Wikipedia have an abbrieviated copy of it. -CableguyTK

eWe

I added the context tag as I know very little about wrestling and had no idea whether the topic was notable. Thanks for your research, establishing that it is not notable. Warofdreams talk 03:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

This Is So Much Better

I am so glad we worked this dispute out. Thanks again, User:Clay4president

Spoilers

Do NOT warn other users not to add 'spoilers' to pages, as they most certainly belong there. This is an encyclopedia, not a fansite, and any useful, verifiable information belongs there, whether it 'spoils' something for the reader or not. Warning users about this is innapropriate. --InShaneee 20:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe a wikiproject can simply 'decide' something like this, as it goes against site policy. TV spoilers are added here all the time for shows that have not aired; this is not unusual, and thus users should not be 'warned' about it. --InShaneee 20:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
If you continue to revert it, you will be temporarily blocked for edit warrring. --InShaneee 20:57, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Page moves

Please do not manually move pages as you did with Clash of Champions. Moves must be performed by administrators in order to preserve the edit history. Thank you. McPhail 01:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I've formally requested a move, so hopefully the page will be properly moved to Clash of the Champions. McPhail 02:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hard Justice

Per the official Manual of Style, contractions are to be avoided. McPhail 22:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

There is no reason to use contractions, and using "vs." instead of "versus" is just sloppy. It's not as though the current WP:PW format is an officially approved guideline. McPhail 23:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

User:86.29.209.159

He verbally attacked me at WWE GBA Article [[1]] BionicWilliam 05:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Khali

I doubt just hours before a major event is going to occur they would ruin it on wwe.com. It was reported by Dave Meltzer, PWinsider that he has been replaced. wwe.com will most not likely report it today. heres a mirror of Dave Meltzers report. 209.214.141.10 21:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

And about calling me a lousy troll, I suggest you see WP:NPA. 209.214.141.10 21:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Fine, keep it the way you fucking want it. But either way calling me a troll while making good-faith edits is against policy and the policy says if you say it with sufficient venom it can be a personal attack which I consider it to be. 209.214.141.10 22:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Civility

Regarding this: Wikipedia has a strict policy forbidding personal attacks, such as calling a user a troll simply because you don't like his edits. Please stop, remain civil, and discuss content, rather than reverting on sight. --InShaneee 22:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Roster Help

Shouldn't the preformers on the WWE Roster/PPV's have nicknames as the TNA preformers on there roster/PPV's? BionicWilliam 05:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

)==Declan James McMahon== I'm sorry about recreating the Declan James article, I thought we should create it cause they created the Aurora Rose article.--MonkeyKid 02:21, 26 July 2006

WrestleMania X8== Could you please help summarize this [2]? I keep telling him it's full of grammar errors, weasel words, and peacock terms, yet he still keeps adding it. If you could help me summarize the match to be consistent with other matches in the article I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. --3bulletproof16 16:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


Bullet As I stated before it went thru a grammer check I fixed the problem that another poster put there. I took out all of his "peacock terms" and "weasel words". So grow up.--TheTruth2 19:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania X8

Leave the summary in or the 3 revert rule will be violated. It is a summary of the match. People would like to see what happened.--TheTruth2 19:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


I have been cival in this and I have alerted the staff in regards to your edits. So please abstain from editing the page.--TheTruth2 19:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

  • When writing results, the match result should be in bold, followed by a second point (**) on any notable points in the match. If there are no notbale points, refer to point --TheTruth2 20:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Also If you are concerned about the wrestling pages on this site, YOu should as well have summaries of the matches. IF lets say No Way OUt. Hogan vs Rock or whomever, a person wanting to read about No Way out would like to read the summaries of the match since their is nowhere else to go except for other wrestling sites on the web. WHich I assume you do not want.--TheTruth2 20:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Notable points, not an entire paragraph. I will try to summarize it. The whole point is to tell people the results of the page. There are websites devoted to going into detail on matches. TJ Spyke 20:08, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Read my above post again--TheTruth2 20:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Just have summaries of the matches. It will help promote your project. You would have more people coming to your sites More people more word out on the "street". will hear about you. It might help your project achieve some of your goals--TheTruth2 20:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

It still follows the guidelines. As I stated a summary of the match at the event that it occured at should be listed--TheTruth2 20:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

3RR report on TheTruth2

TheTruth2 has been reported. If you would like to leave a comment concerning the situation please do so here. Thank you. --3bulletproof16 20:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

--TheTruth2 21:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)== 3RR report on 3bulletproof16 ==

I think we are both ok with what is happening. As I stated earlier I have been keeping in contact with the admin about the situation.

I have reported Bullet in regards to the 3RR.

I have been cival to him and yet he has not doen the same.

It seems he does not know what we have been discussing.--TheTruth2 20:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Read the Guidelines... A 3RR report can only be filed if the reversions occurred more than 4 times within a 24 hour period. The last reversion I did was 4 minutes After the 24 hour period. Read and learn... --3bulletproof16 20:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


I have been cival with you and you just need to relax.

Bullet PLEASE TEAD Notable points, not an entire paragraph. I will try to summarize it. The whole point is to tell people the results of the page. There are websites devoted to going into detail on matches. TJ Spyke 20:08, 26 July 2006 (UTC) We disussed the issue--TheTruth2 21:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I said that because I thought it was the only way you would stop reverting it. TJ Spyke 21:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

And you still have done nothing to summarize the section as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling show formatting. And again read the Guidelines... A 3RR report can only be filed if the reversions occurred more than 4 times within a 24 hour period. The last reversion I did was 4 minutes After the 24 hour period. Read and learn... --3bulletproof16 21:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Aren't you in violation of the 3rr on the X8 page> I noticed 4 reversions in the last 24 hours.--TheTruth2 16:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know. I have talked to 3bulletproof(who is the last version that I revereted from) and he doesn't seem to have a problem since he agress that the notes section should be it. TJ Spyke 17:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I think now you are in violation of the 3RR rule in ragrrds to Summerslam. IF you are please abstain.You are warned --TheTruth2 19:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

But you reverted it back more then 3 times. That is against the 3RR rule.--TheTruth2 19:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I will have to commend you. You are being cival while Bullet has apprently blown a gasket.--TheTruth2 20:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania 22

Per Wikipedia:Embedded list, "As a basic principle, you should avoid list-making in entries...Instead of giving a list of items, the significant items should be mentioned naturally within the text". The pertinent information can easily be merged with the body text. Trivia sections tend to be messy collections of non-notable information. McPhail 23:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Most of the stuff isn't really woth including. Trivia that is exclusive to a wrestler, e.g. Edge's undefeated streak, should be mentioned in their articles, not on the WrestleMania 22 page. McPhail 00:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Just as long as there are any trivia sections. McPhail 00:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't go that far. As a rule, though, trivia sections should be avoided, so I don't see any point in adding them to articles. McPhail 09:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't have the time or the knowledge to edit Superbowl pages and whatnot. WrestleMania 22 is really the only pay-per-view article I actively monitor, and in both my opinion and the "opinion" of Wikipedia policy, not adding a trivia section to the article increases the quality of the article. It's not a case of double standards. McPhail 18:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

TNA

I personally prefer having an article for each event. It makes direct linking much simpler and permits more detailed recaps. McPhail 00:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

You are of course free to veto the deletion. Personally I think it's absurd for an event thirteen months in the future to have an article already. McPhail 00:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Summer Slam

Ah, that's cool, but that's first time I posted it. But I bet you that the match will be made later. The Next Big Thing-21:10

Yeah, I guess that we all have to watch wrestling for the next 3weeks to see what happen. And you typed fast. How long was that? A min. or somein'?! The Next Big Thing-21:24

Rochester sports

Why did you remove the sort terms from several articles in the Category:Sports in Rochester, New York? I thought it was more helpful to have them sorted by team name instead of all under "Rochester". Powers 01:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania Ratings

Rather than put the source on every page, I used http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/supercards/usa/wwf/wwfindex.html for the PPV ratings. I tend to trust them and their accuracy. TJ Spyke 05:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Its cool but I just want you to know that none of the numbers on your website or any other web site are reliable as they all differ in the actual number. See...

I hope that now you understand that the buyrates listed on websites are never accurate or even half accurate. That's why the section on the template has no use unless you want to invite vandals to add their nonsense. --3bulletproof16 03:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

SummerSlam Articles

I think you should take a look at this guy [3] He's been reverting the edits you've made to every article. I reverted them all back to yours as he was done with them but I still think you should have a talk with him to see whats up...--3bulletproof16 19:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Glad to help. --3bulletproof16 20:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

SummerSlam

First off don't make empty promises to my IP addresses. Next, your not helping the SummerSlam articles, your taking away valuable information. I didn't take a month writing those articles for you to ruin them. The information I posted follows the format, has sources and is better formatted than your revisions (i.e, SummerSlam 2005). I would appriciate it if you didn't remove information like important match summaries. Thanks! — Moe Epsilon 22:48 August 01 '06

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_articles#Control_of_Wikipedia_articles

First, there's control of the content. Some contributors feel very possessive about material (be it categories, templates, articles, images or portals) they have donated to this project. Some go so far as to defend them against all intruders.

It's one thing to take an interest in an article that you maintain on your watchlist. Maybe you really are an expert or you just care about the topic a lot. But when this watchfulness crosses a certain line, then you're overdoing it.

You can't stop everyone in the world from editing "your" stuff, once you've posted it to Wikipedia. As each edit page clearly states:

If you don't want your material to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it.--3bulletproof16 22:57, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't care about him editing it, I care about him removing content without any reason. There is absolutly no reason to revert my changes. Did you look at the SummerSlam 2005 article? The formatting is way off. He's removing information without a source and it goes against WP:PW formatting standards. If he actually had a reason for reverting me I might stop, but his senseless reverting needs to stop. — Moe Epsilon 23:02 August 01 '06
I just check the WP:PW formatting for wrestling shows(again) and my edits to SS05 follow it perfectly. The edis I did cleaned it up, there are websites devoted to going into details of matches. TJ Spyke 23:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Saying its "perfect" is a bit of an overstatement considering the article is misaligned. Do have any sources for your information? And giving the main points of a match is not great detail. I gave the main points of the match and thats all that need to be said. — Moe Epsilon 23:13 August 01 '06
If you would be so kind as to give the source for the changes to the attendence and buyrate numbers. If you could also explain your edits a little that might be great. — Moe Epsilon 23:17 August 01 '06
If you are going to fix the format, then fix the format and don't just revert. You are creating too many bad links when you revert. I know you are retired and all but you of all people should know not to revert something that isn't vandalism. Correct but don't revert. --3bulletproof16 23:19, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
He still hasn't given me a source so I could verify what he's written. That comes first. — Moe Epsilon 23:21 August 01 '06
Exactly — Moe Epsilon 23:23 August 01 '06

I didn't put in the buyrate number since I don't know that. I got the attendance number from Here but they are generally reliable(like any other site though they make mistakes from time to time). My understanding of the formatting is that it's supposed to be simple and straight to the point, who won an how(along with importent points like someone interfering). TJ Spyke 23:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

And how was the content you removed not important points? And I suggest while there are multiple websites that say differant attendence numbers, I suggest sourcing your information and then putting numbers like: (ex. 15,500 - 17,000) instead of removing another source completely. — Moe Epsilon 23:32 August 01 '06
Um... and your source for your attendance number?--3bulletproof16 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
See the articles, wise guy. — Moe Epsilon 23:35 August 01 '06

Solution

As long as I make some changes, I won't revert anymore. All I have to do is revert back to the previous version and then make edits from there. I'll try to keep it more brief (if it wasn't already), and add will try to make it as even as possible. — Moe Epsilon 00:02 August 02 '06

Torrie Wilson Full Name

I can you help settle a dispute? My Source for here name being Torrie Anne Gruner {née Wilson) is [4] The Anon has produce no source and trying to pass them self as Mrs. Gruner herself.

BionicWilliam 02:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you unless the anon can provide a more offical source saying diffent Victoria stays here first name. BionicWilliam 02:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania

Its cool. BTW, mind helping with yet another troll? [5] I keep telling him to keep things consistent but there he goes... trollin' around wikipedia... --3bulletproof16 20:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Tell me 'bout it. I deal with them everyday... Just check my Contribs... --3bulletproof16 20:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
And this is what I always get for upholding Wikipedia Policy... [6] ...Someone's got issues...--3bulletproof16 20:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, he does sound like he has issues. It's his own problem if he doesn't know how to follow guidelines and help improve Wikipedia. TJ Spyke 20:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Heh... a 9-5 jobber ... "JOBBER"... yep, definitely has issues. --3bulletproof16 20:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
The guy got really emotional back there before getting the boot... Wonder how'd that happened?--3bulletproof16 21:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hopefully...--3bulletproof16 21:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Here we go again... [7]. [8] --3bulletproof16 21:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

SummerSlam 06

Is there someone i can talk to to try to get the rule changed so Canadians can post matches aired in Canada. User:killswitch Engage

I don't think you will need to since in Canada SmackDown will be moving to Fridays(it was announced by The Score at the same time they made their press conferance about RAW). TJ Spyke 02:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank god, Canadian users are finally gonna get tespect from american users.User:killswitch Engage

Mania Troll

Yep he's back... they never learn...--3bulletproof16 00:39, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: Infobox Format

Its called consistency and besides "/" sticks out like a sore thumb. Use "<br>" instead for a cleaner look to the infobox. --3bulletproof16 22:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

WWE Alumni

Hey, thanks for the feedback. I started off with the true alumni (past wrestlers) and suppose I spaced it and added some current wrestlers. Thanks for catching that and letting me know. . .have a good one. Diefenbaker 19:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Here you go

The Working Man's Barnstar
For your tireless work on all things related to professional wrestling, adding and modifying many articles to maintain and enhance their quality. I often look at professional wrestler's articles and see your username all the way down the page with your contributions. You're doing a great job :). Clay4president 05:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

!!!

come on what the hell does WWE TV Times mean? sounds more like some sort of magazine or some cheap crap!!! it cannot mean or stand for (international) TV Scedules or timings!!! so, WWE TV Times is an incorrect phrase, name and title!!! --T00C00L 08:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: ECW One Night Stand

We agreed on the Wikiproject's talk page that only the "Big Four" PPVs would stay unmerged. [9] -- 3:16 20:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

spelling

Sorry, I was using my spell check. I guess it doesn't like compound words lol.Yugioh73036 22:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)Yugioh73036

No.

I Didn't Do Anything. You Leave Me The Hell Alone!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jw223 (talk • contribs).

But I Was Right Wasn't I! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jw223 (talk • contribs) .

like i have to listen you—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jw223 (talk • contribs)..

huh, what the hell? and why wont YOU TJ Spike, answer my above comment!!! --T00C00L 07:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Seems like I know more about wrestling than you do, seeing as how any one with a brain could see Jeff Hardy was going to Raw, and it was not speculation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.227.148.108 (talk • contribs).

Friggin trolls... damn TJ, they just never seem to get it... -- 3:16 15:37, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Careful with your {{test-n}}

Only use it when you revert clear vandalism by a new user. Content disputes go on the article's talk page. Ashibaka tock 03:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Global Warning Tour

This wasn't the exact site that I got it from (I think that one was taken down) but I did find another source when you asked me about this here. Not the most reliable site but it looks reliable enough in my opinion. Normy132 08:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Summerslam page

  • Why did you remove my addition? The remaining matches section makes sense. Matches that have NOT happened aren't results, so they don't belong in a results section. RobJ1981 00:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
It's just stupid. Results are NOT matches that haven't took place yet. Just because this is what happens always, doesn't mean it needs to continue. Two sections does no harm, and makes plenty of sense. RobJ1981 00:45, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Jamie Koeppe

I took off the speedy delete on her article. I think she has importance (and as a fellow wrestling fan, I recognized her) though the article needs cleanup. If you still think the article merits deletion, please start a discussion in Wikipedia:AFD. Thanks! -Umdunno 05:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

More on Global Warning

  • I watched Global Warning on Main Event when it happened. I have contacts throughout South-East Asia that watched it on their Pay Per View Channles as well. I s that enough "evidence"? Why would they have the announcers doing commentary? It is exactly the same as InsureXtion and Rebellion were to the UK!

Quick reminder

Don't forget to add an informative Edit summary when making changes to an article -- especially where moves or mergers are concerned (as with the Glitch City article). If you disagree with a merger, please use the Talk page to discuss the issue. --Stratadrake 18:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit war brewing on 2007

I don't want to start an edit war on 2007, but I contest the notability of a professional wrestling event, which is largely scripted entertainment. Average Earthman, amongst others, seems to agree, and I hope you can understand this. I can tell your stance is pro-wrestling, but more people agree it's not sufficiently notable. Erath 22:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

A number of points here:

  • I don't hate wrestling, I used to watch it quite regularly. I've now fallen out of the trend, but it's not a pathological hatred. At no point have I said I hate wrestling.
  • Wrestlemania does not get mainstream press outwith the U.S. - this is an important point to consider. The show has little international notability in the press - and while it is shown in 100 countries, many other, more competitive and more watched sports are too - for example, Formula One Grands Prix, FA Premier League football.
  • And largely, it fails on notability, in my opinion, because it is simply scripted. A genuine sporting event, of which the winner is fairly determined, has a great deal more notability.

Erath 22:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Fight for the cause. See Talk:2007. -- bulletproof 3:16 00:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Response to Criticism

How is it vandalism? I took off Metroid Prime 3 because it was confirmed to be delayed by N-Philes. That's not vandalism. That's reported news. And the "unconfirmed games" as their put are confirmed. By either IGN, Nintendo, or the developer. They all had cited sources at one point, but someone deleted them. --68.115.84.52 03:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoops

Sorry about that, I forgot that I did it yesterday. Clay4president 06:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: Sonic The Hedgehog

Funny, I know for sure it's Sonic the hedgehog because that's what Sonic 1's, Sonic 2's, Sonic 3's, Sonic & Knuckle's and Sonic Heroes' manuels say (I can't find the adventure or advance manuels...). I've uploaded a scan of Sonic Heroes' manuel since it's the most recent one I own to ImageShack here. Brandon Dilbeck says that it's The in Sonic Riders, but that game isn't as canon, although it does make me waiver my opinion a bit. I can't find anything on the Sonic/Sega website without everything in all caps, unfortunately. Finally, since the name of the article is Sonic the Hedgehog, it seems fitting that he's called Sonic the Hedgehog in the article. Sonic3KMaster(鉄也)(talk) 03:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Umm, how do you know that? Sonic3KMaster(鉄也)(talk) 03:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
This is as close as I can find to a legal name for Sonic: here. Sonic3KMaster(鉄也)(talk) 03:44, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Mario Strikers Charged

When you remove the "undefinable" entries in the list, it contradicts the opening ("The characters are listed on how they appear on the selection screen") since there are two "undefinable" entries between characters. SNS 21:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Just to clear up something quick...

In this edit that I made, the edit summary wasn't directed at you, but at the edit before yours, the line you inserted at the top was entered while I was making the edit and I didn't get an edit conflict warning. ;) -->So sayeth MethnorSayeth back|Other sayethings

Wii

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Homer Simpson

I guess you aren't a big fan of The Simpsons, are you? It was revealed in episode 3F06 that Homer's full name is "Homer Jay Simpson". TJ Spyke 23:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

OK - well the article had it as Homer J Simpson until two days ago when User:GustavJ, on a vandalism spree, changed it to say Homer Joaquin Simpson [10], and from that another user changed it to Homer Jay Simpson. I was unaware of episode 3F06, but whatever is posted must be verifiable - see WP:V. --T-dot 00:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

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Sticking out like a sore thumb

I've been questioning the quality of the WrestleMania 22 article for a while now and to be honest, I think it's a total train wreck. Other than the obvious inconsistencies, it has way, WAY, too many non-notable points, the opening paragraphs are like a separate article by itself, and not a single reference is made to an official WWE press release. After seeing your recent work on other wrestling event articles I was wondering if you could possibly help me in updating the article to WP:PW standards. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. It looks much better now. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Not to worry. I should be able to take care of 21. I just needed some help to clean up 22 and then take it from there. -- bulletproof 3:16 04:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy

Jeff Hardy has been back on WWE TV for 1 week so how is it I'm posting weekly info? It's been 1 week. That's all you can talk about.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

It's not a lot of info. All it says is that Jeff won by DQ after Lita interfered of Edge. That stuff about him signing a contract and inturpting Edge was already there before I posted anything. I just changed it up a bit. Now leave me alone. I don't really care what you have to say to me.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

WWE RAW Production Notes

I was just curious as to why you removed my edit about WWE having the August 28th, 2006 episode held in Trump Plaza. Yes, I realize that RAW has been in other venues WrestleMania has been held in, but everything is notable - especially since this is the first time since WrestleMania V that WWE has held any show in Trump Plaza. Not so sound harsh here, but this is not the first time something I have added to the Wikipedia WWE RAW entry. I'm getting really tired of having my edits removed with no explanation. Srosenow 98 05:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Addendum: I was the one who added that remark on the Trump Plaza for visitors who visit that page with intent to look up info. on Trump Plaza alone, not just WWE or WrestleManias 4 and 5. I'd really like to know who decides what's notable and what isn't. The fact that this is the first time since WrestleMania V (1989) that the WWE has held a show (WWE RAW) in Trump Plaza should make it notable enough on the RAW "Production" entry.Srosenow 98 05:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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I created a post about Killswitch Engage here: [[11]]. If you want to post, feel free. I doubt I'm the only one that is tired of him. RobJ1981 22:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Dragon Ball canon

For something to be canon, it needs to be at least mostly done by the creator. Toriyama had very very little to do with GT, so that means it is non-canon. The DBZ Movies and GT are more or less the same: Toriyama made some designs here and there, but TOEI did the rest. Just because Toriyama had something to do with the Movies, doesn't mean they're canon. The Movies also have many plot holes, just like GT.

Your Star Trek point is also irrelevant. The creator of Star Trek died, thus the company that had the most rights became the ones to decide what is and isn't canon. Toriyama is still very much alive, so TOEI does not decide what's canon.

You constantly say we have yet to provide proof, but it is you who has yet to do anything but say " You fans don't decide what's canon! ". We have stated all the facts, and all the facts point to GT being non-canon to the original manga. You don't even bother to take what we say into consideration. I understand that you think GT is canon, but you are a fan, and you do not decide what is canon. You haven't given any facts at all, yet we have given many. I think it would be in your best interest to stop this nonsense, because I'm sure you don't want to get blocked (and I don't want you to get blocked either).

If you have time, have a look at Wiki-star's fued on Majin Buu. It is very similar to what you're doing now, and nobody wants you to end up indef. blocked like Wiki-star. I encourage your right to have an opinion, but Wikipedia is built on facts, not opinions.--KojiDude 02:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

WWE Title Exchanges

I'd love to know who made the "policy" of not posting title exchanges until they air... who are you to enforce it anyways?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SBelcher (talk • contribs).

GT

Listen, I told you why it isn't canon. You have yet to provide any proof or facts. What do you have to show that GT is canon, besides your opinion, that overules the facts I gave you? Nothing. In my opinon, everything after the point where Freeza uses his Death Ball on Namek (Androids Saga, Cell Saga, Buu Saga, everything) is non-canon, but I'm not going around changing articles to make it say that, am I? No, because it's my opinion, just like GT being canon is your opinion. Stop vandalizing.--KojiDude 21:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

If you revert the page once more, I am going to report you on WP:AIV for a blocking so you can have time to cool down and think clearly.--KojiDude 21:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

WWE Unforgiven

I think the added stipulation of the 3 year Smackdown contract for the Edge v Cena WWE Championship is relevant. Mikecraig 31 August 2006

Bebi (Dragon Ball GT)

Seems to me that Koji "First Timer" Dude and TJ "Clean Slate" Spyke are interested in joining "The Club" Yeah, I had to click on the "100 versions" for this one. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Damn, you guys are really going at it... -- bulletproof 3:16 05:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

...Ahem... actually there is a Wikiproject for Dragon Ball... I was the only member for about two months, and then it all basically went straight to hell since nobody else bothered to join... Ahem... Wikipedia:WikiProject Dragon Ball... -- bulletproof 3:16 05:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Stop adding the {{fact}} tags to Bebi's article. It is a fact that what isn't in the original manga is non-canon. If you say otherwise, you are vandalizing. Consider improving Wikipedia, rather than damaging the work of others.--KojiDude 07:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding reversions[12] made on August 31, 2006 to Bebi (Dragon Ball GT)

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The duration of the block is 24 hours. Please, never revert that much anymore over what appears to be non-vandalism, as this is way out of hand.Voice-of-All 08:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough.

Run it through AfD and you will have support.

One note, however, please take a look here regarding page moves and people such as A. J. Styles, O. J. Simpson, etc.

Cheers and keep up the good work on the wrestling articles. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 12:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Naming w/ abbrev.

Could you be kind enough to provide a link to that policy and its specific application to abbreviations? I trust you, I just want to read it so I can see what to do in the future. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 19:56, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 20:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

WWE championship by reign

It's niot vandalism, and nor do WWE 'ignore 'it'? WWE decide who can be and can not be recognised as champ, if WWE decided to wipe a former champ from the board, it is their right. Look at the history of belt page. Many ppl have 'won' the belt, only for the win not to be upheld. Rob Van Dam, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho and Antonnio Inoki, there may be more, these are just the ones we know aboot. Like wise the it is similar to the dispute over AWA champioships and IWGP championship won by Hogan, for a long time Hogan was not classed as a former AWA champion, because he was not recognised by the AWA as such, that was changed and reverted, and so now Hogan is a former AWA champ. Only the company involved can confer champioship status, otherwise it's not valid, and the WWE does not confer that Inoki was never champ, he may have 'won' the belt (like Benoit), but he doesn't appear on the rolll becaue it is not recognised, WWE still think of Backlund as the champ at that time, therefore Inoki did not hold the championship, that's how championships work(Halbared 08:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC))

Pro Wrestling Illustrated is not the keeper of WWE history, the WWE is. PWI is an independent magazine. PWI cannot confer championship status on a person, only the organisation in question can do this. Also please refrain from name calling.(Halbared 19:52, 2 September 2006 (UTC))
OK. Can you direct me to the agreed protocol for this please?(Halbared 19:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC))
OK then. I'll abide by that.:o)(Halbared 20:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC))

NO MA'AM Userbox

Thanks for the correction, I didn't notice my mistake. It is now corrected. # Ido50 (talk to me), at 09:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Sonic 3D Blast

The Sonic articles are plagued with regional differences; it seems every month someone replaces all instances of "Eggman" with "Robotnik" or vice-versa, igniting edit wars in their wake. Because this is not the American Wikipedia, I humbly suggest consulting the talk page before changing how the game is identified. Nifboy 15:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

WWE Unforgiven

Which match are you asking about? -- FPAtl (holla) 02:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh... they said it on RAW when they ran through the matches for the PPV. -- FPAtl (holla) 02:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Vic Grimes

I just can't get through to user JB196. He continues to revert the article, reducing its quality claiming that he is not credited as "The Author" in the article itself. The issue is being brought up here [13] help would be greatly appreciated. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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WWE Unforgiven Trish's final match

I really don't care what you tell me. I'll post what I want wether you like it or not. So you telling me not to do something isn't going to make me change my mind on if I want to or don't want to do something. So leave me alone.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

Yeah I know that. But if I get blocked from Wikipedia it's whatever to me. I have more important things to worry about. So I'm going to continue to post the way I want despite what you tell me.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

SmackDown

Was it you that deleted "It appears that WWE has dropped the "!" from the name "SmackDown!" as the logo on WWE.com no longer features the "!"." that from the SmackDown page? The only reason I wrote that was so someone would change the title of the artice from "Friday Night SmackDown!" to "Friday Night SmackDown". The "!" is no longer a part of the name. Check it out for yourself on WWE.com if you don't believe me. It's no where found in the logo and they always call the show "SmackDown" and not "SmackDown!".—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

OK. I was just wondering.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RAMistheMAN (talk • contribs).

ROH world title

Not sure if this changes your mind, but ROH's website now does NOT use the word "heavyweight. I think WP is the only site left that does. Tromboneguy0186 21:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

bullet

I was not vandalizing his user page which your statement implies was the case.JB196 23:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Removing others' comments

Please be careful when editing talk pages as you replaced a comment of mine with your own when editing Talk:World Wrestling Entertainment. Thanks. J Ditalk 02:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Super Paper Mario

Do not refer to people assuming Matt is correct in saying that it has been moved to Wii is vandalism. It is no less vandalism to say that it's still a GameCube game. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

PPV Buyrates

I don't understand why you're deleting the PPV buyrates I added to some of the pages. The older ones are courtesy of the Wrestling Observer newsletter and the newer numbers are courtesy of WWE's press conference for God sake. I'm not trying to cause a stir, I just thought the information would be helpful to some as it is interesting to look back and see how well some events did. Would be grateful for a reply. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Airraidcrash (talk • contribs).

Fair enough. Seems odd that such a small amount of info could cause such trouble to be removed when it's information about the event. Strange but whatever... OH, but how do attendences actually help the article if you don't mind me asking? If you say that about buyrates, then it's seems very weird that there's a lot of other "uesless" info...??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Airraidcrash (talk • contribs).

I see where you're coming from. Its just the buyrate is *just* as important as the attendance, especially when it comes to Wrestlemania. If I were suggesting listing the rating of every Raw or Smackdown that would be another story ;) Anyway, it doesn't matter to me thattt much, so you win. Even though I think it is a tad illogical... I can still see what you're saying. Thanks for replying. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Airraidcrash (talk • contribs).

Airraidcras Please see WrestleMania Ratings -- bulletproof 3:16 23:34, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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