Talk:Timeline of hacker history

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[edit] Move?

This should be moved to something more in line with naming conventions. I suggest history of hacking. Tuf-Kat 23:45, Jan 8, 2004 (UTC)

In agree, i also think it is too verbose. perhaps it should only include landmark hacks of computers - such as the first attack of any type, such as when Denial of service beacame popular, then web defacement then DDoS etc
19xx First Buffer Overflow exploit. Known as the ...
19xx First Distributed Denial of Service [DDoS] attack. xxxx was the target
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IMO whe way as it is, it is not verbose, it is precisely in the "Timeline of..." wikipedia format.

See List of themed timelines.

Hence in a week I'm going to move the page to "Timeline of hacker history". The history itself remains to be written. Mikkalai 00:25, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Sounds good. Tuf-Kat 08:30, Jan 10, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Editing

This really needs some editing. I'm trying, but in some cases, I'm not entirely sure what is trying to be said. Some work needs to be done by a person familiar with the subject matter. A maybe a little fact-checking. ike9898 19:42, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Talking of fact-checking, according to `The watchman' by J. Littman, Kevin Poulsen won a Porsche on a radio contest on June 1, 1900, not in 1993

[edit] Timeline of {something}

This page is purely about the history of cracking, as the history of the hackers is the history of the computer industry itself, i think this page should be renamed to the history of the crackers, or the history of computer security.

Hi ?? if no one comments i'm going to rename it to "history of computer security"
I prefer timeline, and there aren't just computer systems at play I think. Also, if you plan on doing any "renaming", please get an account and use "Move this page" that way the edit history of the article is not lost. Dori | Talk 17:10, Apr 5, 2004 (UTC)

I came here to make the exact same comment. There is nothing about hackers - in the original computer-related meaning of the word - here. The title is thus quite misleading, and "Timeline of cracking" or some-such would be much more appropriate. Noel (talk) 21:33, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Needs some 2005 work

I think this article needs some work to catch up on the events of 2004/05. Any volunteers? :-)

[edit] Tagged for clean up

As I read this article, I found it lack consistency, as well as having numerous grammatical, spelling, and formatting errors. Furthermore, some of the language is not very encyclopedic in nature. I am working on cleaning it up, but if anyone else wants to take a stab at it, feel free. – Mipadi 21:04, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Fixed some of the formatting and grammar, killed a bunch of entries obviously made by boasting script kiddies and uninformative entries taken from newspaper headlines. The article still needs more work. Peter Vasiljev 05:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

This article is tagged for a merge, I think it's structure is fine, with a bit of clean up needed, as far as making it coherent and consistent is concerned. The different events need to be validated with at least one external reference though, and not lumped into a single line, if they all occured in the same month, add the date for each event. If they occur on the same day, then an unsorted list under the date will do.
The article that this timeline is intended to be merged with is just a list of people will various notability in the hacking/computer security industry. If merged, these persons most notable events should simply be added to the timeline, but the timeline should remain intact.
As far as calls for name changes, mostly due to the nuances between the words hacking and cracking, perhaps the nuance should be explained at the top of the article and more articles not specific to breaches, but more general to security, should be added. I agree that "hacking" is not the best label, but this should not become another [www.zone-h.org] for cracker kiddies to vanity-list themselves. If you feel the article is too cracking related, add more hacking articles. It is a free-to-edit community. I feel that a title similar to "Timeline of Information Security History" is a bit long-winded, and there are many broad points of interest in the article which extend beyond Information Security. Satur9 15:50, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting suggestion

Further editting of this page should be steered towards a cohesive standard that provides conformity and ease of reading, below is the format for additional events that I propose should be used by all future author as well as maintainers of this page. Please give any comments / suggestions regarding this below and I will try edit and incorporate any feasable suggestions into this post.

[edit] 2010s This is a decade header

[edit] 2012 This is the year sub-heading

  • April 1 — This is a specific, day based entry, detailing an even that has happened on this day, and is of enough importance to include in this timeline. I will also be adding references from reputable sources for EACH event [1] [2] [3]
  • April 2 — This is another day based entry, for another date, see, it also has references! [4] [5]
  • April 2 — This entry happened on the same day as above, linking a second time to the date would be redundant, but have a date as the first part of the entry, to help future editors insert other events into the timeline. Oops, I almost forgot, at least ONE reference for EACH entry! [6]

[edit] 2013 A blank line between each year and decade heading keeps the article readable

  • August 13 — The dash to the left is created by inserting a — to the line. [7]

[edit] 2020s Another decade header follows neatly on from the last

[edit] 2020 This will be the vision of readers thanks to the readability of the timeline! :)

  • [October 31] — I don't have to warn you about the horde of nasty ghouls waiting to come eat you if you fail to follow proper "Wikiquette" [8]



I for one will make a commitment now that any entry that fails to link a decent reference will simply be removed by me, as the timeline has become almost unmanageable now due to numerous entries without references and the maintainers being forced to google ad nauseum in order to validate and find a valid date for entries. If you are thinking of adding an entry, please at least just add a reference at the end, a simple full path URL (copying the whole text out of your title bar is best) to a new article, between []s, at the end of the entry will suffice!
Satur9 13:10, 8 May 2006 (UTC)