Talk:Throw the Jew down the well

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There is nothing in this article that cannot be mentioned at Borat. Lyrics are likely WP:COPYVIO. Suggest that the redirect stay. --Kinu ^t/_c 06:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

No, this article details the fisical place of the performance and its place in the tv show, and gives more info on its content and background. That's too much info to add to the Borat page for only a single part of a one of his segments. Also, it should rest aside of the rest since it's arguably its most controversial and notorious piece.

The lyrics are reported as information on the subject matter, not as content itself, as such they do not fall under any copyright restriction. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Barbabarba (talk • contribs) .

According to WP:COPYRIGHT#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others

All works are copyrighted unless they either fall into the public domain or their copyright is explicitly disclaimed

Since The Ali G Show is not available in the public domain, you need special permission from its rights holder(s) to reproduce the lyrics on Wikipedia. --Madchester 07:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

By that logic basically 99% of the pages in Wikipedia are illegal.

check this part:

If you use part of a copyrighted work under "fair use", or if you obtain special permission to use a copyrighted work from the copyright holder under the terms of our license, you must make a note of that fact (along with names and dates).

Probably I should have placed the fair use note in there. Those lyrics fall under the fair use policy, since are inherent part of the information described in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Barbabarba (talk • contribs) .

Sorry to say, but the full lyrics of a song are not fair use. A line or two might be -- it's rarely if ever acceptable to use the full contents of anything. Please see Wikipedia:Fair use criteria for more details. Luna Santin 07:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia policy infringements

Lyrics and youtube links of commercially available copyrighted work violates the following policies: Directly from WP:EL#Restrictions_on_linking:

"Sites that violate the copyrights of others per contributors' rights and obligations should not be linked. Linking to websites that display copyrighted works is acceptable as long as the website has licensed the work. Knowingly directing others to a site that violates copyright may be considered contributory infringement."

and Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking_to_copyrighted_works:

"If you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, please don't link to that copy of the work. Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States (Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry).

Also, linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work sheds a bad light on Wikipedia and its editors."

Meanwhile KazakhPol's only argument against this has been "If Cohen wants to sue YouTube, Wikipedia could care less." Gdo01 04:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)