Talk:Thompson (band)
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[edit] Anica kninska kraljica
- Their song Anica kninska kraljica from 1993 is also quoted as hateful, as the song describes, in so many words, the burning of Krajina all the way to Knin, which could be a reference to looting and the burning of Serbian houses after several offencive strikes of the Croatian Army in 1995.
This was what an anonymous user wrote, but I reverted it along with the rest of their biased remarks. Quotes from the song would be preferable. --Joy [shallot] 11:04, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Here's some lyrics from anica:
Zbog Anice i bokala Vina, zapalit ću Krajinu do knina...
Translation: Because of Ancia and a bokal (large bottle used for storing wine), I'll burn Krajina all the way to Knin. h3llbent
- Ah, thanks. Google found me the full text. The problem was that the name is actually "Anice kninska kraljice" (vocative, not nominative). I'll put it in. --Joy [shallot] 20:16, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- Actually, the name is "Anica - kninska kraljica", goto http://www.thompson.hr/ (Thompson's official website) and check out the name of the song listed in the discography section of the site. –Fantastique 13:54, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Another thing occurs to me. Who exactly is this Anica? Some random woman, or someone in particular, is there a hidden meaning in that? --Joy [shallot] 20:35, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Only God knows who Anica is; she's most probably some random woman killed in the war. On another note, I removed the part: "He was seen mocking an old Yugoslav salute". First of all, there are no old Yugoslav salutes (of course, you have the fist to the side of the head, but this is a normal salute that has nothing to do with communism, even if it was used at one point in Yugoslavia among the partisans), second of all, even if there were, Marko Perkovic does not have the wit neccesary to find something like that humourous. This would be also quite risky, as most of his fanbase would most probably not get the joke, as anyting remotely connected with Yugoslavia is taboo in such circles. Cheers. h3llbent
- Yeah, I wasn't sure about that, either, but didn't want to remove it without verification. Thanks. --Joy [shallot] 29 June 2005 10:22 (UTC)
i am croation and i think that the song is the best one tompsonis the best singer and i was born in the war its not harsh —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.28.105.168 (talk • contribs) 10:16, 28 August 2005.
[edit] War veterans
"The song Reci, brate moj (2002) sympathises with Croatian war veterans and laments their status ("Tell me, my brother, are we cursed/for it all to be so quickly forgotten?"), which is another trademark of right-wing nationalism in Croatia."
Isn't that a little harsh? I'd recommend just cutting the whole thing out... --Thewanderer 23:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Evo zore evo dana
Why did the editor of the article call "Evo zore evo dana" a chauvinistic song?
[edit] In nearly every song
in nearly every song of thompson ( i know nearly all of them :-)) you can find a political message for croatian patriotism. and for the question ^^ "Evo zore" is definetly nationalistic. It is a story playing in der time when croatia was under fashism, and there are gloryfied army leaders of Ante Pavelic (some kind of the croatian Adolf Hitler). What i missed in the article, was that thompson sometimes talks about mystic things in his songs (dolazak hrvata> a white knight, send from god gave the land to the croatan people). It is an interessting fact compared to the german fashism (chosen rase and so on)
[edit] biased
This page is extrememly biased and one-sided.
if you want to say that thompson sang evo zore evo dana, then do so, do not put lyrics he did not write about on his page. There is already information explaining what evo zore evo dana and jasenovac are. If you are so concerned about putting every bad/controversial thing a band did, then go to Marilyn Manson's page and put the lyrics of every controversial thing he has said/sung. Go to Baja Mali Knindza's page and include every single controversey he has done and the songs he sings; I was shocked that no one included them (as there are many) like they did to Thompson, but then, that is not too surprising. why are there no good things written about thompson? like the inspirational songs he sings. like the fact that every year during homeland and thansgiving day, he has a concert in which all the money made goes to soldiers families that fought in the war?
This is a page about a band, one that many see as controversial, but that does not mean putting EVERY single controversy down--go to any other singer/bands wiki page, you wont see lyrics of EVERY single controversial song down. This is weighing down the page with one excessive one-sidedness. There are just as many Serb singers that are even more controversial.
Bojna Cavoglave "includes many controversial parts" besides za dom spremni, what else is controversial? the fact that he is singing about defending his village from people trying to occupy it? Then is every european war song made during WWll controversial because they sang about defending their country.
Also, what does it have to do with the band thompson if other "reported" versions exist of the song with "ustasa" reference. did he make them? show proof.
and I removed the "controversey" from the last song because frankly, I have no idea why its there
This is just what I am editing for now--I will do more later and some more good things about this band. According to Serbs, almost every single one of his songs is controversial. While I don't like everything they do/sing about (especially Jasenovac, which disguists me), you can't take out good qualities and songs from the band. What they did/do for Croatia is amazing, and the reason why they are the most popular band in Croatia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MilaLika (talk • contribs) 00:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC).
