Talk:Third wave ska

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Ska punk and skacore are subgenres of the third-wave of ska, and are not synonymous with the third-wave.

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[edit] Why hyphenated?

Why is third-wave hyphenated, when second wave is not? Night Gyr 00:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC)


Seems the hyphen is optional. It was included here simply of author preferance. I would not be apposed to changing it for the sake of consistency. --24.195.235.165 06:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

There's a grammar issue. You can say "third-wave ska", where "ska" is the noun and the hyphen is needed to create the adjective. Or you can say "third wave of ska", where "wave" is the noun. Right now the title is odd; the noun is "third-wave". - mako 03:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, this title is STILL grammatically incorrect; it should be 'Third-wave ska'. 82.45.161.53 02:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I believe it is grammatically acceptable with or without a hyphen, as in the term New wave music. It would be grammatically correct to call it New wave of music or New-wave music, but nobody does so. Perhaps someone can check a grammar book or website to confirm. Here are just a few links that use the phrase "Third Wave Ska." One of them is BBC, and they seem to be pretty strict about using correct grammar.

[edit] NOT THIRD-WAVE!!!

This is not third wave ska... It is most definitely second wave in style and sound. The three waves of ska refer to a sound and style, not a time period... Learn your history. They do not sound even remotely like Sublime, or the Mighty Mighty Bosstones... RBF is about the only band that has songs that even sound close...

  • Third wave is both a time period and sound/style.Spylab 16:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)Spylab

[edit] Merge?

The section in the ska article is longer than this. Should we merge it? If we do, we better make sure we don't lose any info. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 23:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 19:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Third-wave of ska → Third wave ska – The current title is grammatically incorrect, and Third wave ska is the most commonly-used term to describe the music genre. When I tried to move the article, it wouldn't let me, because Third wave ska already redirects to Third-wave of ska. Spylab 18:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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  • Support. Seems like a straightforward change to improve the grammar of the title. --Akhilleus (talk) 04:59, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Add any additional commentsSpylab 18:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)Spylab

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


[edit] Response to proposed merge between Ska Punk & Third Wave Ska

If there is to me a merge between these two articles, it makes more sense to merge Third wave ska into Ska punk, because Ska punk has a more precise definition and has more substantial content. Third wave ska is more of a wishy-washy term with disagreements about what it really means. Spylab 02:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Response to Spylab's reversed merge

Isn't that thinking backwards...? Third-wave includes ska-punk, it's not completely vice-versa. It wouldn't make sense to completely skip over third-wave, seeing as not all third-wave is ska-punk... Now that I think about it, why not merge both pages into the main ska page and turn ska punk and third wave ska into redirects to ska?? FrogStomp 02:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure what the best longterm solution is, but I'm guessing that the ska punk and Third wave ska articles were spun off from the original ska article because other editors thought they needed their own articles. We should get opinions from other editors before any merge is undertaken in this case. Of all three articles, Third wave ska is the weakest, in terms of defining the subject, and in terms of the overall content of the article. There is a difficulty in exactly defining Third wave ska; some say it refers to a time perion, others say it is particular musical style and culture, and others say it is both a time period and a style. Also most of the content in the third wave ska article duplicates content in the Ska punk and Ska articles. Spylab 11:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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