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[edit] 30 Seconds to Mars

PLEASE start researching the information you put up before you edit the page. Numerous pieces of information you have posted have been incorrect. If you must, start a discussion on the talk pages about it. Thanks for the help! Enfestid 20:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] *Hopes this is how to send a reply*

Thing is, I did. I've seen stuff that supports what I edited. I guess it's possible that it's inaccurate, but here:

That Beautiful Lie [Advance] thing I mentioned:

http://www.google.com/musicl?lid=bvXOsl1787K&aid=8HqyKaZMAHM

I've listened to the hidden track and it's exactly the same as that last part of 'Year Zero'.

For that 'Anarchy in Tokyo' thing:

http://music.allofmp3.com/r2/30_Seconds_To_Mars/30_Seconds_To_Mars/group_12156/album_500/mcatalog.shtml?albref=25

Both of those are incorrect. The last song on the debut album most people just refer to as a transmission, and it is most definitely not Anarchy In Tokyo -- a song that can be found on the internet (some Myspace 30STM fansite, I believe). And the order of the listing of the advance is incorrect, as I have the advance. Most albums have advances -- it's just something for publicity for reviewers of the album, for business executies, etc. It may or may not be the final copy.
Enfestid 01:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Another thing, I've downloaded a version of 'A Modern Myth' from a P2P. Though it's true that P2P downloads are almost always a few seconds off, this one's 14:14 long. And it's not (just) a large empty space. It's silence until the last 1:44 or so. Then, Leto will start singing...something, and there'll be some drum playing (and it's not a fan-made add-in, it's definitely Leto). Is this official?
The Wretched
That's nothing. It's just a small live cut of a track -- nothing special. Yes, it is the band, and yes, it's official. It was just something on the advance version as a place holder before the final album.
Enfestid 00:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] KOTOR possible future live-action series

Thanks for contributing to the Knights of the Old Republic (KOTOR) article, but I've removed the section about the live action series, as generally speculations aren't included in articles. However, if you could show a link or source from where you found this information, it could perhaps be included. Sorry, I'd rather not remove contributions, but I'd need to see where you found this before including it. – Xolatron 19:55, 24 Telona 2006 (25 May) 19:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I found it here: Star Wars Live-Action TV Series Facts

Scroll down a bit until you find a link to the KotOR article or just read it until you come to it.

The Wretched

[edit] Your edit to Reborn Jedi

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It's nothing really major. I'm just relocating all content to Reborn (Star Wars) since Reborn were not called 'Reborn Jedi'.

[edit] Naruto!

Hi The Wretched. I appreciate your improvements to the Naruto article, thanks! ~MDD4696 15:26, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

No prob. :)

The Wretched

[edit] Naruto

  • Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Danny Lilithborne 05:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

The same could go for you. I'll keep the English names for the Villages, but leave the Akatsuki section alone. I made it like this 'cause this dude named The Gash or something said that one of the reasons that this arcticle fell out of FA is because it sounded awkward at the end.

The Wretched
  • May I ask why did you delete the images I contributed to the ninjutsu page? I spent some serious effort putting in those visuals. No one else had a problem with it, they all had a copyright tag and the sizes were not out of proportion.
Verde830
I'm sorry what? Did I delete something important? I was merely trying to revert the thing back to my edit where I added Suna Shunshin no Jutsu... The Wretched 06:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
In the process you reverted 3 days worth of changes! Don't use automatic reverting to get your changes back unless you are trying to remove EVERYTHING between the current revision and the revision you are reverting back too. Also doing such edits you should mark it as such. If you wanted to readd it, just readd that section don't revert like you did. We lost all these changes. [1], because Someguy0830 reverted just what you had wanted to add [2] – Pedantic79 (talk) 16:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naruto articles

I am asking nicely that you desist from moving articles to Japanese titles to suit your own preferences. This is the English Wikipedia. If there is an English translation for the title, you use it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

That seems inconsistent with the fact that the articles linking to Naruto geography (such as Hi no Kuni) use the Japanese names instead of the translations.

The Wretched
I don't care that some articles are messed up, it doesn't allow you to mess up others. To be honest, I'm working on straightening them out. However, your method of moving pages is entirely unacceptable, as it destroys the edit history and makes a mess of the system. Do not make any moves like that again. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, no need to be a drama queen about it. And don't be hypocritical about my preferences. Your working on it under your preferences also. And what's this about destroying stuff and messing up systems? Either you're being overly dramatic about it, or something's wrong with your comp. Over here, everything's fine. Wikipedia's not having any difficulties.
The Wretched
You misunderstand my meaning. By destroying edit histories, I do not mean something so literal as breaking the system. I mean you are separating the edit histories and making individual edits harder to track. Also, this isn't preferences, it's a guideline/policy (forget which, probably the latter). Not everyone speaks Japanese and they are not likely to go searching for a title in Japanese. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
But that's why we have redirects. If someone searches for Naruto the Movie 2, it'll redirect to Daigekitotsu! Maboroshi no Chiteiiseki dattebayo (which it doesn't now since someone reverted it).
The Wretched

Using ~~~~ is a better way to write your signature. Anyway, nothing links to your version. Almost everything links to the English one. Clearly, people know this better. You wouldn't call an article about cats "The Splendiforous Adventures of Filliam H. Muffman" and say it's okay because "cats" redirects to it, would you? I realize it's an absurd example (I just wanted to use that title), but it's similar in principal to the Please Teacher! article. It's not called Onegai Teacher! because we speak English on the English Wikipedia. English is favored here, simple as that. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Here, read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles). It's an official policy and should clear this up. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Okay, tell me in a nutshell what the Hepburn Romanisation is. If I knew that, then maybe I could get what's preferable. Btw, thanks for the little sig thingies (~~~~) - The Wretched 05:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
That has little to do with this, but all you have to do is click on Hepburn romanization. It's basically a pronounciation aid. In any case, the style guide indicates that an English loan name should be used.

The en:Wikipedia is an English language encyclopedia. An English loan word or place name with a Japanese origin should be used in its most commonly used English form in the body of an article, even if it is pronounced or spelled differently from the properly romanized Japanese: use Mount Fuji, Tokyo, jujutsu, shogi, instead of Fujisan, Tōkyō, jūjutsu, shōgi. Give the romanized Japanese form in the opening paragraph if it differs from the English form (see below).

It's as simple as that. English names take precedence since this is an English language Wikipedia. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 05:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Okay, (this is beside the point) but what about those lines above the letters? I thought it said in the Japanese MoS to use those. Unless I misunderstood... - The Wretched 05:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, here it is.

"Long o and u are written with macrons as ō and ū respectively. If you have difficulty typing these characters with your IME, you can now click on the special characters below the Wikipedia edit box. You can also enter the HTML entity ō for ō, and ū for ū. All other long vowels are written with without macrons: ああ → aa, いい → ii, and ええ → ee."

??? - The Wretched 05:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
We do as far as I see. A letter does not mean an entire title. Take Hyuga Hinata (I'm too lazy to make the proper u). It uses it because it's a name. Such is not the case with other titles (places, mountains, movies) because they have translations, or loan words, in the English language. Really, though, it's difficult to cacth every instance. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 05:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Also note that these guidelines apply to the title given in the first paragraph, so please don't change those to Japanese, either. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 15:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Naruto: Clash of Ninja (video game)

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Stop copy/pasting the content of those articles. The names they are currently at are the original pages. Do not edit the page or its redirect in an attempt to move them. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 19:21, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm only going to warn you about this once more. The articles you keep restoring are redirect pages. Do not restore them again. If you wish to edit either Naruto: Clash of Ninja (video game) or Naruto: Clash of Ninja 2 (video game), use those specific articles. Do not try to copy/paste move them to a redirect page. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 22:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Dude, no, those are not the originals. I accidentally created them awhile ago 'cause some idiot went and moved it to Naruto: Clash of the Ninja. The real originals are the ones without the little (video game). Besides, if there is no page that has the same name, we usually give it to that one. I dunno wy you prefer the little parenthises (video game) part, but there is only one video game with that name. Therefor, we don't need it. Sorry for creating it in the first place. I was thinking that the original was deleted. To be Honest, I dunno why or who created that jackass title anyway (Clash of the Ninja). Move it back. And for your info, I simply reverted this time, I didn't copy and paste anything. Quit assuming so much. The Wretched 23:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the original was Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen, but since you're so damn picky about Japanese names, we have to go through a huge amount of problems. And for what? A simple name. This is hardly worth the crap we're both dealing with... The Wretched 23:42, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
You did not create them. I can read the edit histories.
Now that I've proven you wrong, stop messing with the pages. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:50, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Okay, whatever, hang on lemme think, I'm all mixed up...
Alright! But why do we need the freakin' parenthises when we already have an article without it. We don't need parenthises! It's unnescessary (SP? I hate trying to spell that word). In fact, it should be Japanese anyway. If the MoS said otherwise, then why was it Japanese for like, 6 years? Someone would've changedit by then. The Wretched 23:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Because not everyone pays attention. Shit happens, so to speak. If you really want to get rid of the "(video game)" part, you can ask an administrator for help with the move. You're just going to get your edits reverted otherwise. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't need to ask for help with a move. I know how to move something. Revert, or move. Simple. You just keep claiming it's vandalism and reverting it. And I thought you were an Admin. You talk like one ("I'm only going to warn you about this once more..."). And, I thought for sure that I'd accidentally created that (video game) thing...well, I know I created it in Capitalized form, to which you moved it to lowercase, so I thought...yeah. And this is weird: If that was created in 05, then why was it in Japanese when I got here (I signed up like, 2 months ago, maybe longer, I dunno)? And why do we want that parenthises anyway, besides it just "being the original"? The Wretched 00:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Moving a page correctly (which you haven't been doing) preserves the edit history. Regardless of its title at the point of creation, the edit history stays intact. As for the current title, it's a naming convention. You don't capitalize "(video game)". I'm telling you to ask for help with the move because you cannot move Naruto: Clash of Ninja (video game) or the other ones because the pages you want them moved to have been editted. What you have been doing is vandalism. You are making the original articles into redirects and moving the entire page to a new article, preventing people from tracking the old changes. It's very annoying. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:11, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Okaaaaayyy...so...what you're saying is, get someone to delete the supposed "Non-Originals", so we can create them again...
...that sounds kinda pointless to me... Are you serious? This is what all this crap is about? ... The Wretched 00:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

It may seem pointless to you, but this is how Wikipedia works. We keep the edit histories for copyright purposes. If you want Naruto: Clash of Ninja (video game) moved to Naruto: Clash of Ninja, you ask an admin to force the move for you. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:20, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, okay, fine. Request added.
Geez, I thought copyright was supposed to be a good thing, not an annoyance... The Wretched 00:33, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Obviously, you've never dealt with copyright. It is an annoyance. It's an extreme annoyance. That's the point. If it weren't annoying, people wouldn't respect it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

"(cur) (last) 21:34, 6 July 2006 The Wretched (Talk | contribs | block) m (Okay, why did some dude kill off the macrons in Kyubi no Yoko? 1. The Macrons are supposed to be there. 2. If they're not there, then the links don't work.)"

Actually it should be "Demon Fox" since that's what the English versions use. WhisperToMe 16:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

"# (cur) (last) 14:22, 5 July 2006 The Wretched (Talk | contribs | block) (How many times do I have to tell whoever keeps reverting this that his name is Might Guy?! Maito Gai is a faulty translation by Viz. They fixed it now, so don't give me any crap about English names!)"

Actually, VIZ was doing what everyone else was doing. All the fansubbers were using Maito Gai too. When the guidebook came out, VIZ changed everything to Might Guy. WhisperToMe 16:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Good, all the more reason to use it. The Wretched 06:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

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