Talk:The War at Home (TV series)

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Contents 1 Ridiculous Criticism on this show... 2 Series cancellation? 3 Page move proposal 3.1 Voting 3.2 Discussion 4 Question 5 TV series > film 6 Criticism and Controversy sections 7 date rape 8 NPOV 9 Inaccuracies Section

[edit] Ridiculous Criticism on this show...

>>Less plot-related criticisms are that the show is supposed to take place in Nassau County on Long Island. >>This can be seen when during one scene of the show the 516 area code appears, which is the area code of >>Nassau County. Most people who live on Long Island would generally agree that the setting of the show is not >>in touch with Long Island.

Why is it not in touch with long island. Long island (where I've lived for many many years)is suburbia, the setting of the show is suburbia.

>Most areas of Long Island with houses that appear like Dave's do not appear in racially diverse >neighborhoods. The chances of Dave or his daughter being in such close contact with African Americans is >somewhat unlikely based on the racial demographics of the hamlets and villages on Long Island. Local ?>newspapers such as Newsday have cited Long Island villages and hamlets for their lack of diversity. Several >actors also lack a Long Island dialect, though many residents of Long Island do not have the typical distinct >Long Island accent.

Couldn't be further from the truth... Ridiculous —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.117.201.120 (talk • contribs).

• I tend to agree with you, but since I'm not from Long Island, I wouldn't know firsthand. If you think that the article is misleading, please be bold and feel free to edit it! -- Chabuk 19:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

This "Criticism" section did need to be reworded, but I agree with the criticisms of the show; basically, I didn't realise it was set on Long Island until I read that here. "Long Island is suburbia, the show is set in suburbia"....well, that's vague; the show presents it so poorly that it could be any American suburb (i.e. like Chicago on Married with Children). You can't just say "well it is an accurate version of Long Island, because Long Island is a suburb"....it could be a suburb of any major city in the Northeast, great lakes (like Home Improvement), or California; it's such a vague and innacurate portrayal that I literally had no idea what I saw looking at.

....I guess I could say that the big criticism can best be said as "They didn't research their stereotypes". That is, it's impossible to tell its set on Long Island because it is not an accurate gage of what LI is like and you get the feeling that whoever wrote this based it on vague memories of that Budafoco-whatever his name is guy from a while back. --->As for a "Long Island accent", there really isn't much of a distinct "Long Island accent" (I mean, you can tell the differences but it's not like making fun of an Italian accent or Staten Island accent, etc. it's not one of the more distinct regional accents); what this show did was give the father a...vaguely Brooklyn or Chicago-esque accent? It's like when one of your friends gets really drunk and does an unrecognizable accent, expects you to laugh, and then gets angry that you didn't realize that while they sounded like Cookie Monster, they were trying to sound like Super Mario's Italian accent. And this is apparently a major part of the "humor" on this show. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.64.137.195 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Series cancellation?

So I hear this show has been cancelled after just 3 episodes. Is there any truth in the October 2nd episode being it's last? -Buzda Oct 6 (6:56am)

They're not on next week (Oct 9); a movie is replacing them. But they are still listed on Fox's fall schedule page [1]. The Fox schedule always gets kind of confusing in October because they broadcast much of the baseball playoffs; I honestly wouldn't say "this show has been canceled" until it fails to be on in November. Izzycat 12:56, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Question

why is this show so homophobic? I think that is poor. Who wants to here a father continually emasculate his son and act like a homophobic jerk

Is there a way that we can somehow add some stuff to the criticism section to the effect that this is the worst show ever produced, and that Michael Rappaport or whatever his name is should be tortured and then executed? Would I have to find a source to that effect or something? BarrettBrown 03:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

When writing articles on WP, it's best to maintain a neutral point of view. However, if you were to add a quote (with a legitimate source) to the criticisms section, I imagine that would be a useful addition to the article. --Lox (t,c) 20:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

• 1. Find more TV reviews in magaiznes and some such. 2. ???????? 3. Profit

[edit] TV series > film

• Wouldn't more people be trying to reach this article (The War at Home (TV series)) than the one about the movie (The War at Home)? I suggest that this article be moved to just The War at Home, while the movie gets moved to something like The War at Home (film). --FlyingPenguins 05:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

At the moment, yes, in reality, no, because this show won't last two more years and will be forgotten. Slots should probably go to things which'll be remembered long term. Harsh? Yes. But aside from Fox's notorious programming schedules, this show is almost universally condemned.J. M. 11:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Um, please provide credible citations to any of the statements made in a Wikipedia article. Much of what seems to exist in this entry are personal opinions about a show that, like most good shows on Fox, will be killed.

[edit] Criticism and Controversy sections

Why does this article have a "Criticism" and a "Controversy" section, which contain information that more less duplicate each other? Or should I even ask, since this article is such a mess? 70.92.166.154 02:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems someone was totally pissed off when they wrote it. A lot of it was nit-picking. They were basically attacking the show. I feel it must be cleaned up with 80% of it deleted

[edit] date rape

i see it says dave offered her 2 bottles of beer and some questionable asprin.. i think it is a bit extreme to see it as a date rape drug, after all you dont offer someone date rape. Surely the more sensible suspicion would be he offered her ecastcy?

[edit] NPOV

At one point in the criticsm section, it says, and I quote:"Another criticism that should be noted is the show's lack of originality.". Now, don't get me wrong; I think the show, in one word, SUCKS. But to say it has a lack of originality, would that be a POV from someone else?

Leopard Gecko 00:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Leopard Gecko

I don't think this show sucks. I don't really like the typical overly manly father acting all homophobic though

The show isn't homophobic the character is.And even then, if youe thought your son was gay you might be a little concerned.It dosn't even mean that you're always homophobic.It's probably just showing how the father overeacts to things.And this show is funny. Dermo69 11:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Most likely the show is not homofobic due to the creators open sexuality. It only shows that he can poke fun at him self for comedic purposes.BaconSquishy 16:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Correction. If you're homophobic which is ignorant, then you're worred if your kids are homosexual. I think the creator of this show is a real idiot if he is actually gay and making a show like this, which is often insulting towards homosexual people. Lonelyboy 06:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inaccuracies Section

"The thought of Dave not being allowed into a country club because he is Jewish is also unrealistic. Long Island has a very large Jewish population, and there are large Jewish populations in many affluent neighbourhoods in Nassau County, so it would be unlikely that such a country club would be able to exclude Jews."

Isn't the point of Dave not being allowed to join the country club as he is Jewish supposed to be parodic of the view that is often portrayed that country clubs only accept middle class white men, such as Dave, whereas this country club goes against the conventional view? I don't think it's supposed to be an accurate portrayal of country clubs and discrimination. I agree with the writers in the "criticism and controversy" section, this article does seem to be largely attacking the show. Inquisition 16:39, 27 September 2006 (UTC)