Talk:The Searchers (film)

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This article needs cleanup. Because it has been written piecemeal it lacks structure, the overall content is OK but it needs put into sensible order. PatGallacher 17:02, 2005 July 13 (UTC)

I've had a go. The Analysis section has a lot of POV in it but I've left it in for now.--Shimbo 23:39, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Debbie wants to be rescued

Just wanted to mention that if you think you're sure that Debby doesn't want to be rescued, you need to watch the scenes with her as a teenager more closely. The second time we Debby, when she is telling Ethan and Marty she doesn't want to be rescued, she has a whole tribe in ambush waiting for her and the boys to make the wrong move, so she is motivated to say whatever that will prevent people from getting killed, and in this case that would be saying that she wants to stay with the tribe.

In a later scene when Marty later wakes her from her slumber to rescue her, she is noticeably more recipient to being rescued, and in fact seems almost like a different person. This dramatic shift in behaviour would make a lot of sense if she was merely pretending to want to stay with the tribe in the first scenario, and actually wants to be rescued. This isn't in your face evidence of her willingless to return, but in a very well respected movie with layers of subtlety underneath a seemingly simplistic facade, what's true isn't always what's obvious.Krymson 10:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

wants to be rescue ?

wants to be rescue ?

wants to be rescue ?

she haves no choice : Ethan takes her in his Arm !

Petrusbarbygere 01:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

The critical scene is the scene chronologically missing from your gallery, between the third and 4th image. Debbie's reaction to Marty and her willingness to leave the tepee is not indicative of someone who has found their home with the Comanches. Also, you have ignored the "50 billion Indians with knives spears and guns at my back" point.Krymson 04:41, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Error in Analysis

In the analysis, it explains that Ethan says "there's more at stake here than your sister!" near the end of the film. However, it was not Ethan that said this, but rather Sam Clayton. This can be verified by either watching the film (at approx. 1:49:40) or reviewing the screenplay (http://www.aellea.com/script/searchers.html). However, the line as said in the film differs from that of the screenplay cited. The actual line said in the film can be seen on the script (http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/s/searchers-script-transcript-john-ford.html) near the end. The complete line as said by Clayton in the film is as follows: "Now son, I know that this is a bitter thing to say, but there's more at stake here than your sister". Ethan simply agrees by responding with "there sure is".

Bwiegand 02:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)