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"Given that their members speak only through their work, however, even their attitudes can only be inferred." The Residents have given interviews, so this is quite untrue. Google will find you several and Tape Op ran one a year or so ago. I suppose technically the interviews often are attributed to Cryptic Corporation spokespeople, though in one online interview the interviewer said "So, the theory of obscurity is over?" or somethiing to that extent, and the interviewees (the two HF's) concurred.Xproudfoot 21:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Can someone please substantiate the claim this article makes about one of the former members attempting suicide? -- TheKyleD 6:21, 24 Apr 2005
I was very impressed after their concert in Warsaw on Sept. 9, 2001. As to their identity - there were 6 people on stage, one of which was evidently a woman. -- WojPob
- I saw them in San Francisco that year with my pregnant wife (which explains a lot regarding my daughter's recent behavior!) That was Molly Harvey and Mr Skull with three Residents and a guest musician, I believe. Great show!
- but what does their music sound like? --The_stuart 21:57, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Like nothing you've heard before. Buy Eskimo and listen to it yourself. 96T 20:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I was fortunate to be a friend of one of The Residents for several years and was slightly acquainted with another, c. 1981 - 1995 or so. They are very cool, kind, intelligent and motivated people who have, to their great credit, managed to do well for many years without compromising their creative impulses one bit. There are some things that I think are okay to say at this point, especially considering that even the biggest "secret" of all was revealed by The Face magazine in the 1980s. None of The Residents have ever attempted suicide. There is no female in the band. You cannot trust that "The Residents" in disguise at public appearances and concerts are the actual Residents, although the musicians hired to play them are strictly instructed on how to "be the Residents" and how to play by the actual Residents. This should be clear to recent concert goers, as "the singer," who is one of the "real" Residents, is not one of the four disguised "Residents." His voice is very distinctive. Anyone familiar with their recorded material will recognize that this is the same guy who has always been their primary vocalist. Even though the true identity of The Residents has already been publicly revealed, I won't reiterate that revelation here. It's more fun to keep a bit of mystery going, and besides, the Residents have always eschewed "rock star" adulation.
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[edit] stolen eye mask
"Backstage at a show on Christmas of 1986, one member's eyeball mask was stolen, so it was replaced with a giant skull mask. The eye was returned in 1985 by a devoted fan who discovered where the thief lived and stole it back."
-Umm, is this a typo or is time travel now part of The Residents mythology? A mask is stolen Christmas '86 and returned in '85?
Benjamin Ickies
Yes, you're right. It was stolen on December 26th 1985, I'll fix it.
I also believe that the incident about the stolen eyeball should not be under "early history". The mid-80s is certainly not early history for the Residents. I think it should be moved in a new category, something like "various information" or "various myths" etc. but I don't know how to do it. Thank you for your time. - Thehar
[edit] Big Secrets
The Residents are not actually mentioned in the book "Big Secrets", it's just that the author who's famous for these books, has had a go at this secret as well. So I changed that back. Juryen 10:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's not in William Poundstone's Big Secrets, but one of the two sequels; namely, either Bigger Secrets or Biggest Secrets. All of which are a great read, I might add. ProhibitOnions (T) 18:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 193.218.90.23 is an idiot
He added links to all this ridiculous stuff, like speculation and history. Can anyone revert this without losing the new stuff we got during this time? What an asshole.
Yes, hi, I am 193.218.90.23. Perhaps what I did was a mistake, but I didn't mean no harm. What's wrong with adding links to stuff existent in Wikipedia, even if they are 'ridiculous' by your standards? If I am mistaken, please correct me, and I would appreciate it if you told me why what I did was wrong. There is no need for name-calling. And please sign who you are. Thank you. --193.218.90.23 16:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] River of Crime
Could someone please add the info for river of crime? Thank you.
[edit] Link to Myspace.com
Somehow, the link to www.myspace.com/theresidents does not function. Does anyone know how this can be fixed?
[edit] Cromagnon
When ZYX Music reissued the album Cave Rock by the 60s psychedelic rock group Cromagnon in the mid-90s, there were rumours that members of Cromagnon later went on to form the Residents. There is some discourse on that here and also here. Morganfitzp 16:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think we should definitely add something about cromagnon and the rumours surrounding, because after all, there isn't an article about cromagnon itself. (anonymous user – please sign your posts with 3 or 4 "~'s!)
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- Where would this rumour go in the article? It doesn't fit with the alleged events that led to the group's formation in the late 1960s. Morganfitzp 21:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
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- I think It could go in its own section. Perhaps a "Alternate history rumors" section.67.165.80.5 19:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
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I removed the reference to the group Cromagnon, since it's just a minor, disproven speculation and doesn't contribute to anything to the article. Contents were:
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- Some believe that psychadelic 60's avant-rock group Cromagnon (Who released Orgasm/Cave Rock) went on to become The Residents. This opinion is enhanced by the sound of Cromagnon, one that resembles that of The Residents. However, the belief is hampered by Cromagnon being based in Connecticut, a far cry from the California coast, and a lack of familiar-sounding vocalists.
So you see, it's just a rumor and doesn't deserve its own section. You can add a sentence about it along with the other rumors at the end of the second section if you want, but don't add it as its own section. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 08:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Could someone please verify the addition about the Dutch band? I've never heard this rumor before...67.165.80.5 18:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Handicapped Resident
I was looking through the third reich n roll booklet and saw that one of the residents in the pictures has crutches or some walking assistants,anyone know anything about this.
Yes, it's nothing more than an illustration. The Residents are not disabled.
[edit] Merge Timmy (The Residents) in to this article.
- I'm undecided between merging that article into this one, or just moving for it to be deleted as it's just a copy/paste quote. TS1 20:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
We may be able to expand and convert it into something worthwhile. And by we, I mean you guys, as I've never played Midway and details on it are scarce.--Agent Aquamarine 02:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I rewrote the article to avoid copyvios. I think we should keep it as a separate article, as it is another project by the Residents and all other projects have their own articles. Seems notable enough for me. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 03:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
That's a good start, mate. Perhaps a bit more information on what goes on in Midway. (But for all I know, nothing of note actually happens to Timmy)--Agent Aquamarine 22:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Identity
(Identity of The Residents removed by the same person who posted it. The below response is correct. It's more fun not knowing.)
- Doesn't matter who they are. We play along, it's just more fun that way. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 22:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- I would add that you can never really be sure. For instance, it has been said that Homer Flynn is the singer. Yet in some DVDs from tours he can be clearly seen shooting a video with his camera, while the singer is on stage. Ergo, he cannot be the same person, except if he is a wizard (which wouldn't surprise me coming from the Residents...)--130.235.141.174 15:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Me again, the guy who keeps changing his mind about whether or not the time is right to be explicit about the identities. I don't mean to be rude, but one can be sure if one knows them. :-) The singer has always been the same man. Please bear in mind that the group loves playing with expectations and identity-hunters. The actual Residents musician(s) never actually play live, and if I understand correctly, have not since at least the early 1970s. Only the singer actually plays live, BUT he sometimes has other people play "the singer," just as the musician(s) do.
Friends, what is this fuss all about? The answer regarding the identity of the Residents is simple (and given in the Demons Dance Alone project): there are no Residents; and on the same time the band has remained completely unchanged. I think the answer to that riddle is obvious: There are no Residents outside the studio and outside the stage. It is the creative spark within us all that these people (whose names are irrelevant) let manifest in whichever way it deems appropriate and they let it speak of its own. That is the true Resident, and it exists inside us all. With honor, --Theoharis 16:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- In the the spirt of "it doesn't matter," I think this portion of the article needs to be moved to the bottom. It distracts from what's most important about The Residents: their body of work. And darn the thing, I've worked with them on more than one occasion and they still won't fess up :) - Purple Penguin 143.229.178.135 05:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Settle Down and Do Some Research
The Residents are one of those things (or groups of things, rather) that should be researched extensively before writing about it. Anyone who's been reading articles on them over the last thirty years should be shaking their head at this article and the changes that have been made to it. I think maybe people should have to be certified in Residential lore before being allowed to alter this page. The rumors are part of their history (and their art, sometimes).
The point is, the article seems to be trying to be too specific. It's the Residents--anyone writing anything in this article should know that everything s/he is typing might be total bullshit--and that should at least be somewhat reflected in the text, unless we want to lose our readers.
One writer (after trying to write an article on the Residents and finding it very difficult) once said that he got the impression that journalists and music critics were supposed to make part of the lore up as they went along, since neither the Residents nor the Cryptic Corporation liked giving complete answers.
That having been said, there is one "fact" in this article that is grossly incorrect: "They formed in 1972 and released their first record that year..." Now read the Early History section. How could they have formed in 1972 if they got their name based on a rejected demo tape from 1971? Then, they even performed and released another "pre-album" under the name "Residents" before their first official release, Santa Dog, even came about in 1972.
I would rewrite it, but all this typing has made me tired.
Funkeboy 10:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
