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[edit] Useful or not?

Is this article useful ?

I think it is. Why wouldn't it be? That said, wasn't it "Quarrymen", one word? --Camembert

Nearly all the text is the article The Beatles

That's true, but I think it's useful to have separate articles - the two things are not the same, and most members of the Quarrymen were never in the Beatles. I'm sure there's plenty more that can be said about the Quarrymen than is here now, and most of it wouldn't be appropriate for the Beatles article. --Camembert

Almost two years have gone by since the last comment here, and by now Wikipedia has grown so much that there is no doubt I guess that The Quarrymen deserve their own article. I agree with everyone, including User:68.214.177.119, who said only two days ago I think that it is The Quarrymen rather than The Quarry Men, so I have moved the page (again).

P S What about Quarry Men and Quarrymen (without the article)? <KF> 11:48, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

Personally, I am of the belief that it is Quarry Men (two words). I have Anthology 1 here in front of me, and it uses the Quarry Men notation. Likewise, our History of the Beatles article says Quarry Men. This book says Quarry Men. Our German article on the band says Quarry Men. I'm fairly certain it's a two-word thing. - Vague | Rant 08:37, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)

And for what it's worth, so does this album cover. - Vague | Rant 06:28, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify that it isn't an actual "Beatle" Quarry Men/Quarrymen CD. ;)

What we need to realize is that the two (The Quarrymen or The Quarry Men) cannot be decided on. John Lennon himself writes 'The Quarrymen' so, as I've no choice but to believe it all falls on personal preference, I agree with John and call them 'The Quarrymen'. The majority of people (bootleggers) tend to go with 'The Quarrymen' when labelling their albums (see also both this album and this book on Amazon.com.) We could probably offer this on the main page: that the two names exist and are accepted. Riv @ 00:10 hours on Feb 3, 2005

[edit] Quarrymen or Quarry Men

Although in many ways the two names appear to be interchangeable there does seem to be an underlying difference. The original lineup had the two-word name on their drum head and on their business cards. It seems that the line in the school song used the one-word form and that was the style favoured by John Lennon. For the purposes of this article I found it convenient to use the two-word form for the original band and the one-word form for the second incarnation (the proto-Beatles) that was formed for the Casbah residency. This isn't entirely consistent because the 1990s reunion band was styled "John Lennon's Quarrymen". --Theo 12:11, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Percy Phillips demo (1958)

I am not convinced that the demo was recorded on a 78 rpm disc? I have a note that the recording engineer "later wiped the tape", which suggests that it was tape recorded. --Theo (Talk) 09:13, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The fate of the tape

"The tape sold to EMI for £78,500, making it the most expensive recording ever sold at auction, but the recording quality was too poor to issue and the the tape is now believed to be lost."

I have to disagree with the latter comment - I've never heard this rumour before, and surely if something is in the hands of EMI, it's not going to be lost, especially considering that they only bought it ten years ago? NoNameR

I agree. I have researched this further and amended the article accordingly. —Theo (Talk) 12:41, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Nurk Twins

I have seen several items on the web saying that John and Paul used to busk under the name of The Nurk Twins as well as The Quarry Men. Any one know about this? "Before the Beatles, there was The Everly Brothers," (Chet)Atkins said in his stage introduction. He wasn't overstating the point: Prior to forming The Beatles, John Lennon and Paul McCartney played Everlys songs in a street-busking duo known as The Nurk Twins." Said in discussing the influence the Everly Bros. had on the Beatles tunes. http://weeklywire.com/ww/05-11-98/nash_music-lede.html and http://www.beatles.com/hub/article.php?page=upto63&menuItem=the%20beatles I know it has always been fashionable to busk in Engaland. Did the lads busk or not?

[edit] Tree

I just added a rock family tree. Please feel free to move it to its own page, a la The Beatles line-ups, if there's some determination that it shouldn't be here in this article due to size, or whatever else. Thanks. --luckymustard 11:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

If we accept that the reformed "Quarrymen" of the 90s are a legitimate enyclopedic topic - and I guess they are - shouldn't the family tree include those lineups? Perhaps the Beatles should be a fork? --kingboyk 14:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In-line Citations

I have just added the first three, and Spitz's and Miles' books as references. It would be nice to see more... --andreasegde 16:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)