Talk:The Ongar Experiment
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Zero Google hits (other than this article) for "Lazlo Pozsgay". Zero Google hits (other than this article) for "Ongar Experiment". Zero Google hits (other than this article) for "Fyfield Clinical Research Institute". Supporting articles created by same user are copyvios.
Any real report of the cessation of human aging would be world-wide news, both from a medical and general news viewpoint. The absence of any such report suggests that the content of this article is either unverifiable, therefore failing the verifiability test, or bogus. In either case, the article is a likely deletion candidate.
The creation time for this article also suggests it is an April fools gag.
-- Karada 23:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The bits on the rule of nines are pulled from text about real people who did the real work around that time. Look for guinea pig club for instance. This looks like a ratehr raggedly stitched spoof. Zappit. Midgley 23:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Not a Hoax
Dr Lazlo Pozsgay was a real doctor. My mother was a nurse at the Fyfield Clinical Research Institute and had fond memories of this rather odd man. Dr Pozsgay returned to Hungary at the time of the 1957 uprising and did not return. I myself am now a Doctor and the article is medically correct (more or less). I suspect the writer is not a doctor. I would be interested to know what efforts Karada has made to verify Dr Pozsgay's work beyond doing a Google search against his name – believe it or not, there is a whole word of knowledge out there that is not on the internet. I do know for a fact that the Fyfield Institute was closed before 1960. Please could the writer of the The Ongar Experiment contact me at: jkeyes@willinghamhealth.co.uk I would like to discuss Dr Pozsgay. Some of my mother's papers may be of assistance. With thanks Dr John Keyes.
[edit] Comment by the Writer
I appreciate that my own comments cannot be judged as unbiased. As it is, the article is not complete. In retrospect the article ought to have been called "Dr Lazlo Pozsgay" as opposed the "The Ongar Experiment". The point about surviving patients who have ceased to appear to age is not the main point of the article, but rather the life of Dr Pozsgay. Besides, I did not mention those patients with a view to asserting their condition as being true, but rather that is what is commonly attributed to Pozsgay. I accept that adding the articles about the Rule of Nines and the Parkland Formula was misguided. However, I saw an obvious need to establish what these two concepts are. I would also like to add that the criteria for "verifiability" seems to be very narrow - i.e. limited entirely to searching on Google. I have entered the name of my wife in Goole and no results came up for her. However, I can assure whoever is reading this that she does exist. The world does not begin and end with Google. The fact this article appeared on or near April Fool's Day is entirely coincidental. If I had known of the suspicions and cynicism of other contributors I would have waited until May to post my article. My knowledge of Dr Pozsgay is second hand, as are most of the postings on Wikipedia – indeed original research is discouraged. I am delighted with the emergence of somebody who has a connection with Pozsgay, I will contact you Dr John Keyes. Conrad Vish 19:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
