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Contents 1 RuneScape 2 Edit 3 Newest event 4 Rumors 5 What does this mean? 5.1 What does this mean too? 6 Fansite vanity? 7 Can I remove this? 8 Missing definitions 9 Matrixism 10 Pay To Play? 11 Unverified statements 12 Cleanup 13 Lack of Objectivity 14 Generic Story Page? 15 The 'Wiki' External Link 16 Metacortex

[edit] RuneScape

Is this supposed to be kinda like RuneScape? --daunrealist 1 July 2005 02:52 (UTC)

I dont think this game can be comapred to RuneScape since they are completely different types of games, aside from rpg elements. RuneScape has characters and combat like mxo has, but mxo is all 3d and massively multiplayer and RuneScape is topdown rpg. Go to gamespot.com or 1up.com and do some research.

Are you kidding me? RuneScape is a MMORPG! Duh! Can anybody please clarify and answer my question better?

MxO is a 3D MMORPG. It has basic concepts that are true to most MMO's such as character creation, levels, abilities, factions and turn based combat. The major difference between MxO and many other MMOs is the story line as continued via the live events in game. Additionally there is an in-game buddy list powered by AIM that makes keeping track of friends much easier and is accessible outside of the game when signed in with your character name into AIM. A nice feature that I've never seen in an MMO. Hope that helps. --Jenn 8/9/05

Yeah, thanks. Maybe I should get it. --daunrealist 02:51, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edit

Deleted the POV statement Combat is where MxO excels, this statement has no place in wiki, however if a source(s) claims that players very much enjoy the combat system then add it. However, I have heard from many many people and articles that combat is the weakest part in the game, and has been criticized by many. Theres no need for me to add this to the description though.

[edit] Newest event

The most recent MxO event has been over a long period of time rather than simply being focused on a specific time period. It also had no definitive beginning. How should it be listed? ShadowMan1od 06:58, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

events should be listed by the cinematic they correspond to. Nightfall and Race for the One do not have cinematics, but should still be mentioned.

Ehn...there are even instances where it seems to me like hairs have been split when they shouldn't have been. Somebody who actually plays the game needs to overhaul the Major Events section, no? Adam Marx Squared 00:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

The events do not always correspond to the cinematics. As a regular player, I think the current state of the story summary section is adequate and accurate. Most of the names of those sections for the story summary came from the live event titles back when the game had a dedicated Live Events Team to create events, which often didn't correspond to any given cinematic (like the Nightfall event). Also, the story is progressing at a approximately half the expected speed, which accounts for the length of time that some of the events have taken to resolve (like the recent Unlimit happenings). 24.20.47.88 07:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rumors

I removed some things from the rumors section that have been confirmed. The Assassin was an old recycling program that escaped deletion. The Assassin is dead now as well. ShadowMan1od 03:25, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Now I understand. Yeah, logical enough. Adam Marx Squared 20:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What does this mean?

The article states that the game had

sold only 43,100 copies (with 33,100 being zion) as of June 2005

(my emphasis). What does this mean? The term "zion" is not defined anywhere in the article: is it an in-game reference?

—Phil | Talk 10:15, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Zion is one of the three organizations joinable in the game. Being the ones who want to free humanity, they are generally considered the "good guys," which most players want to be.

LoL musta been some angry merv or machine who typed that up...their isnt that many zion :P

[edit] What does this mean too?

Another oddity in the "Race to find the One" portion of the Major events section: What on earth does this sentence mean? "Shapers were found the could maniputate the rsi fragments into the shape of Neo's mental projection." Someone who knows more should re-work that. Thanks. badmonkey 12:52, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Shapers were red/bluepills that could manipulate code in the Matrix - they were Dev or LESIG-controlled characters that each organisation were trying to bring to their own side, so that the collected Fragments of Neo's RSI could be recreated into the One.

Neo's RSI is currently in a Fight Club basement somewhere in the International District.

Baku 14:53, 22 November 2006

I thought it was Westview, Gracy Heights. Or is it different on the three servers?--Carpcarp 15:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fansite vanity?

It seems half of the External Links are links to random fansites. While I agree with the IGN link as it is a rather well established gaming and information site, the rest seem to just be vanity sites. You can easily find fansites through the official MxO page and forums. I'm going to delete them for now. If anyone has any major objections and would like to revert, please comment. FallenAngelEyes 23:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can I remove this?

Anyone object to removing this line:

The Matrix Online is as close to an Action-MMOG as any manufacturer has come.

Aside from being ambiguous, there was an Action MMOG out long before mxo, Planetside.

It should be removed Adam Marx Squared 04:24, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Missing definitions

The article uses a lot of acronyms with no proper definition. SOE is probably Sony Online Entertainment but it us best to use ...Sony Online Entertainment (SOE)... RSI is not defined either. I guess it is not Repetitive Stress Injury but still... And how about adding it to the RSI disambiguation page?

I was pretty sure it expressly noted RSI as referring to Residual Self-Image. Anybody who's watched the movies knows that, anyway! Adam Marx Squared 23:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Not everyone has watched the movies. And seeing RSI for the first time, I wouldn't know either. Another definition that's missing is redpill. It would be good to explain exactly what this means, such as "People who have voluntarily left the matrix and seen the real world". I was going to say that they joined the resistance, but I haven't played the game and I can't be sure of whether everyone fights against the machines.--72.70.53.87 22:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

You're correct, not everyone who is a redpill is a rebel, since only one third of them are Zionites, and even the Zionites are not all involved in any kind of resistance movement. Also, I agree that RSI should be defined, since the initialism was never used in the films, only the term "residual self-image." 24.20.47.88 07:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Matrixism

Is this site serious. And can someone explain the caption that goes with it.

- Sounds like a crackpot with too much free time. If you want to mix The Matrix with religion, your best bet is to follow Gnosticism; of which the Matrix series is an allegory of (listen to http://www.gnosis.org/Matrix.ram for more information). Also, this link has nothing to do with MxO other than the fact that the author states he was repeatedly banned from the MxO forums for promulgating his "religion." Villemar

- Removed the Link again. Getting sick of removing his crap that he posts here aswell. There is no valid reference To The Matrix Online and thus should be removed

- Matrixism actually comes up on a Google search for "wicole censta" which is one of the hidden keywords from MxO. Could be that matrixism is one of the game's ARG's.

- Yet the actual website is not relevent to the matrix online. Despite the fact it may contain a keyword it is not revelent to the game. If i see this again i think i am just going to report the ip address

[edit] Pay To Play?

Is The Matrix Online a Pay to Play game like Ragnarok Online? Or is it a "retail-purchase, then no more fees" game like Guild Wars?

The Matrix Online is pay to play. The subscription runs about $15 dollars a month. You can also order three month packages for less, I belive. You don't need to buy a physical copy of the game. It is downloadable, then you just pay the monthly fees. Villemar

I am quite sure that you have to pay for the download, too. Sure you can download a fully functional Trial Version, but you would need a key from a bought game after your trial period runs out. I might be mistaken, though.--Carpcarp 15:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unverified statements

I noticed some unsourced statements that seem typical of a disgruntled player in the article, so I took the liberty of removing them. Reasons mainly being: 1) they do not contribute much, beyond giving a vague sense that the game is somehow going downhill 2) they seem rather farfetched, how or why would a commercial game suddenly change to being "run by the players"? If someone wishes to research this and can verify that this indeed has happened, feel free to reinclude them. The additions were made by an anonymous user who by the time of this writing has no other contributions. --80.221.135.214 22:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

What was the nature of the claim that the game is currently "run by the players?" In a sense, that's accurate. With the layoff of the live events team last year, the development team recruited a group of players to help plan and perform live events. The players in the group never play major film characters, but they are often on the same crew and are often seen along side them. You're right that such a claim doesn't belong on the page and is likely just someone who's disgruntled with the current state of the game. 24.20.47.88 08:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

Article needs cleaning up, and probably updating as well. There are lots of grammatical mistakes; for example there are mixed and muddled tenses in the section describing the May 2006 events. Packersh 22:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• Just my two cents as a user: The article is almost entirely incomprehensible and could stand a major rewrite. I'd volunteer to do it, but I don't know anything about The Matrix Online (which is, of course, why I came here in the first place).68.70.88.63 09:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Maybe the "Major Events" section should be to be renamed "Storyline" or "Plot Summary", since the events are no longer particularly major and don't have official names anymore. The plot summary should probably be shortened into a few paragraphs that cover the basics, like in the Metal Gear Solid article. One Star Bandit 05:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I changed the "Major Events" section to "Storyline Summary" due to the facts brought up by One Star Bandit. I would like to change / add a few things but other than the basic editing, I don't know/can't figure out how to do it.

[edit] Lack of Objectivity

I find it interesting that although other game titles have included the controversy regarding the business models, implementations and strategies of the companies who run these games (Such as Star Wars Galaxies, amongst others), this entry does not; although it received many critical reviews from third party entities.

It seems that this Wikipedia article is lacking in objectivity, and I will be noting this to Wiki.

I think SOE taking charge, the change in Live Event structure, and the "Champagne Room" all need mentions. ShadowMan1od 23:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

  Ok I can see the 1st two bot the champagne room had nothing to do with SOE.  That was a bad decision in naming by a forum mod - Lazaros

SOE taking charge is already mentioned, the change to the LESIG model of live events doesn't really matter all that much to non-players, and... please. MxO has at least one dumb drama fiasco a month, the Champagne Room doesn't deserve even a passing mention. I'm not trying to sweep it under the rug, but it was predominantly the community's fault for overreacting. I wasn't even in the group and I didn't think the name sounded elitist, I actually thought it was very fitting. 24.20.47.88 08:04, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Generic Story Page?

I think that this should be a generic story page and should mention that you can go to the official website to get fansite links for more information as there are many out there that specialize in everything about the game. I think that this page should just be updated by people that play the game with information that directly relates to the story when new information is available. I think that was the original idea that the original creator had in mind. What do you think?

I disagree. This is still a game, just like anything else, and it deserves background on game mechanics and other such trivia. Even the pages for the films contain more than just a story summary. There are plenty of fansites that have more in-depth story summaries, WikiPedia should be for a more general description of the game. 24.20.47.88 08:06, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The 'Wiki' External Link

I think the link to the "Matrix Online Community Wiki" should be removed... as it is not a Matrix Online Community Wiki, but a Matrix Online Community Wiki. Subtle difference.

(In other words, it has nothing to do with the game. It's a Wiki for the online fanbase.)--MythicFox 14:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Metacortex

The ARG metacortex, has nothing to do with MxO, and has been removed from this wiki.