Talk:The Lone Ranger
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The discussion of the story of how the heroes obtained their horses sounds much like what is called in the world of comic books a retcon – a rewrite of the fictional "past events" of characters to make them fit their universe's current "realities". Anyone know if this is the case here? Of course, I really don't remember the radio show, just the TV one. Rlquall 06:05, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Moved from article:
It is well known that George W. Trendle did NOT create the Lone Ranger and the continuing characters. This erroneous idea originated when Trendle bought out Striker's interest in The Lone Ranger show for a tiny amount of money and a long term contract. After that event, Trendle took public credit for the character. It is simply not true. --Calton | Talk 00:11, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
redirected Kemosabe to The Lone Ranger Themindset 19:58, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Another Fran Striker series
If you read the Lone Ranger books, you may like another adventure series written by Fran Striker: the Tom Quest series. Like the Lone Ranger, it's a juvenile series for boys but it's really very well written and a fun read. --FWDixon 11:39, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] John Reid?
Is it true that John Reid was *never* mentioned? I know it's not impossible for so many sources to be wrong, but at least two sources pinpoint a 1953 anniversary radio broadcast (retelling the origin) as specifically identifying the ranger as John Reid, *plus* reviews/credits for the 1981 movie The Legend of the Lone Ranger all mention John Reid. I'll try to check the radio broadcast, which I have on tape, but if anyone else can or would care to check on this (see the movie, for example), it would be greatly appreciated. Aleal 00:01, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The name John was never mentioned on the radio program or the tv show. Anyone who knew who the Lone Ranger really was referred to him only as "Reid." A book was published in 1966 about old-time radio and mentioned the name "John." That is the first known mention of the name. Since then the name John Reid has appeared in the liner notes of a 1978 children's record album, the 1981 "Legend of the Lone Ranger" movie, and, most recently, the 2006 comic book series from Dynamite Entertainment. [1]Michael.douglas.dean
[edit] Kemosabe = Quien no sabe?
I heard a story years ago which attempted to explain the meaning of the name "Kemosabe." According to this story, Tanto's tribe spoke a pidgin version of Spanish, learned from Spanish priests. Tonto's name was "Aguila Brava" or Brave Eagle. After he had known the Lone Ranger for a while, he started calling him "Kemosabe" and told him it meant "faithful friend." The Lone Ranger had the name inscribed on all his possessions, including his saddle and his boots. While riding through a small village one day, an old man started laughing at the Lone Ranger and pointing to his saddle. When asked what was so funny, the old man said, "Kemosabe means 'he who knows nothing.'" This was a mispronunciation of the Spanish "Quien no sabe nada" which is a question meaning "Who knows nothing?" Upon hearing this, the Lone Ranger was furious. He told the man that Kemosabe meant "faithful friend." The old man said that whoever had told him that was stupid ("tonto" in Spanish). The Lone Ranger confronted Aguila Brava and called him "Tonto." From that day, Aguila Brava accepted the name as punishment for playing a prank on his "faithful friend."
It's probably not true, but the coincidence of Tonto's name being Spanish and the similarity between Kemosabe and Quien No Sabe are enough to make it worth mentioning.
[edit] Dan Reid revealed he was the same from the LR in a 1947 of the GH show
A 1947 episode had Dan Reid reveal to his son their relationship to the illustrious man of the Old West.
[edit] The Lone Ranger was not lone!
If it was the Lone Ranger and Tonto, he wasn't lone! Tonto counts as a person, surely? 86.131.28.45 23:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
He was the last of the Ranger group killed in the canyon ambush, hence the 'Lone' Ranger.
Precisely. Tonto was not a Ranger. Reid was the "Lone" Ranger, not the "Alone" Ranger. And don't forget their horses. Wahkeenah 20:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "¿Quien no sabe?"
Most everything about "kemo sabe" in the article either makes sense, is common knowledge, or is easily verified. To equate that phrase to "quien no sabe" sounds like guesswork. If you can find a reference to it, other than sites that mirror this one, cite it. Wahkeenah 14:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Well written
This article is very well written and fun to read. There's something at the beginning that says it's not "formal tone" appropriate to "encyclopedias." If by "formal tone" they mean "extremely boring" then they're right. This article is great and should not be rewritten to satisfy those who have no fun in life. 69.227.3.212 23:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
