Talk:The Little Mermaid (1989 film)

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Do we really need all of this extensive plot information? RickK 02:18, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I don't see what's wrong with it. It is useful content about a well-known movie. The more detailed, the better.Vancouverguy 02:25, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Contents 1 The Palace with the Phallus 2 Plot 3 Controversy 4 Popularity 5 Little Mermaid II 6 Images to be allowed or forbidden in this article or on Wikipedia 7 VHS/DVD Covers 8 Limited Issue DVD Cover 9 Freud gone wild 10 Red Links 11 An edit war has erupted 12 Article contradiction 13 2006 Singles 14 Should This Be Included? 15 Trivia?

[edit] The Palace with the Phallus

Why is one of the spires of the castle on the Little Mermaid video cover a phallic symbol?24.87.242.0 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

The plot should be longer, including the information about exploring in the sunken ship. --PJ Pete

[edit] Controversy

One of the biggest controversies in this film was, Ariel smoking out of a snarfblat (or sometimes referred to as a pipe) in which the smoke hit Grim in the face and then Grim wipes his face with canvas which the part of the scene where Ariel smokes was the tobacco use in this film, in which the use of tobacco or tobacco references is usually unsuitable for younger children in films, by which the part of the scene where Ariel smokes was cut when the film aired on television, although when you smoke from a pipe, cigar, or cigarette, it is extremely harmful for your lungs, although in the musical, Grease and its film adaptation, the Pink Ladies had bad habits where they neglect their lungs by smoking from cigarettes and drink alcoholic wine, though getting Sandy addicted to those habits, although Sandy is smarter than they are. --PJ Pete

[edit] Popularity

This film had no low successes, it is SUPER-POPULAR, like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, Aladdin, and Cinderella, although this film is a LOT more popular than Alice in Wonderland that had reactions and criticisms. --PJ Pete

[edit] Little Mermaid II

Someone created a page for The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea, I've cleaned up a little bit, but haven't seen it nor do I intend to. Anyone know more about the film and care to take a stab? Elde 01:48, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Images to be allowed or forbidden in this article or on Wikipedia

The 1989 poster with a large cast of characters and the palace, and the 1990 VHS cover are both NOT allowed in this article or on Wikipedia, because it contains obscene content. --PJ Pete

• Uh-huh. And you'll decide that all on your own, will you? There is no censorship on Wikipedia. Every other Disney animated feature includes the image of the original release poster (with the exception of Fantasia 2000, which uses the IMAX version). This title should be no exception. PacificBoy 15:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VHS/DVD Covers

It is very controversial that the 1990 VHS cover had content that was quite obscene, which was the thing drawn outside the castle with an unmistakeable resemblance to a phallus, and later the 1990 VHS cover was banned from stores that do not allow X-rated films on VHS/DVD, so the 1990 VHS cover was discontinued because of the content, and if you were looking for the 1990 VHS cover of The Little Mermaid on eBay, most of them call them banned covers. --PJ Pete

[edit] Limited Issue DVD Cover

For the 1999 Limited Issue DVD cover, that means that they make as many until they no longer make copies of these, and in this article, you should put a date of when it went out of print or when The Walt Disney Company quit making copies of it. --PJ Pete

[edit] Freud gone wild

I have deleted the rather lengthy part about the supposed Freudian undercurrent in this film as it seems to be nothing more than original research and hearsay. Any Objections? Finite 18:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Not at all. I've edited the smaller sections and intend to work on the "plot" and "production" when time permits, focusing on the POV statements, wordiness, and length.--Marysunshine 04:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've worked on the "plot" section to make it more standard with Wikipedia style-- feel free to step in and fix anything I've missed. I removed some uncited claims (such as the one that claims Tianamen Square may have jeopardized TLM's release because some of the drawings for the film were in a vault a few blocks away...), and request that sources be added if possible for the other ones.--Marysunshine 04:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Worked on the summary; mostly just trimming sentences and rewording some stuff. That's about all I can help with for now.--Marysunshine 20:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red Links

I'm inclined to unlink some of the characters with red links. Many of them are unimportant except in the context of this article. Would anyone think this unreasonable? -rasd

I took care of it. PacificBoy 17:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An edit war has erupted

...with a vandal by the IP number of 24.92.46.16. (See history now for evidence.) I feel this page should be semi-protected for a day or two. --Slgrandson 21:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article contradiction

I noticed a contradiction in the article from the. following two lines. The first is from the "Production" part of the article:

"In 1985, "The Great Mouse Detective" co-director Ron Clements discovered a collection of Hans C. Anderson's fairy tales while browsing a bookstore. He presented a two-page draft of a movie based on "The Little Mermaid" to CEO Michael Eisner and Walt Disney Pictures boss Jeffrey Katzenberg, who green-lighted the idea for possible development, along with "Oliver & Company".

Howeverm later in the article, in the trivia section, it states:

"The film was originally planned as one of Disney's earliest films. Production started soon after Snow White, but was put on hold due to several circumstances."

Which is correct? Mouse Nightshirt 21:44, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

They don't contradict one another. Just because a Little Mermaid film was planned in the 1940s doesn't mean that it was in any way related to the project that began in the 80s. - Debuskjt 01:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

To tell the truth, it's NOT true that it was originally planned as one of the earliest films, otherwise if they put it on hold, they would have cancelled it, because the year it was released is a lot of years away from the year the earliest films were first released, and for real, The Walt Disney Company company actually started producing this film in either 1985, 1986, OR 1987. --PJ Pete

[edit] 2006 Singles

I removed the entire section. A web search of major retailers and a general Google reveals no evidence that either song was ever released for sale as a separate single. - Debuskjt 14:45, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe they can be listed as promotional covers? Annie D 04:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should This Be Included?

I'm almost positive in the scene where Ariel is getting married the priest has an erection. Wasn't sure if something like that should be included in the article.

It's his knee, which is clear in the faraway shots and just animated wrongly in the close-up. That shot has also been "fixed" for the oncoming Platinum DVD release. Annie D 04:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia?

Many of the items in the trivia section are uncited, so why are they included? Is there any reason to believe that any of them are factual or just made up? 70.91.35.30 19:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)Tim