Talk:The Death Gate Cycle

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[edit] Broken Links?

It seems as though the first two links are broken --previously unsigned comment by 65.189.214.222 13:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I presume you refer to the external links. The first link works for me, the second doesn't. It could be a temporary problem. I suggest we wait a week to see if it gets back, if not it can be deleted. --Fogeltje 14:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
The second link is broken, I removed it. - JNighthawk 03:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
DGCO has been down for several months, unfortunately. I'll re-add them if they return. If the link to my site (The Gate Will Open) ever doesn't work, it's because I'm having server troubles. No intentions to close the site. - User:Immora 01:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Appendices

there needs to be a refrence to the use of appendices in the books and the allusions of rune magic and quantum mechanics and the uncertinty princliples. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.208.69.68 (talk) 03:12, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] In the Future

Many years ago, the powerful Sartan ended a war by sundering the world into four elemental worlds

Didn't this turn out to have happened in our future after a nuclear war that gave the Sartan and Patryns their power and mutated humans into dwarves and elves? --previously unsigned comment by 142.35.144.2 00:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

As far as I recall you are corrected as far as the Sartan and Patryn go. I can't remember exactly how dwarves and elves came to be. The article itself states now that elves and dwarves went into hiding during our Renaissance, but I can't recall if this is correct. I assume it is, it has been a long time since I read the books. The books indeed happens in our future. But the text 'Many years ago' refers to the book's current time, which is many years after the sundering and thus further in our future. But from the books' POV, the sundering is in their history. --Fogeltje 15:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Fire Sea revealed that the elves and dwarves went into hiding during our Renaissance. Time references in the article are from the standpoint of the books, rather than our present (which is in their distant past) --User:Immora 01:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Before the Books

It's my understanding the Lord Xar was the first Patryn to set foot in the Nexus.. not the first person... I believe it is eluded that Zifnab is the first person, and it is he who wrote the tomes of books that Xar studied.... am I wrong in this? and if I'm right, I can't figure the best way to reword the paragraph containing the error... --Graatz 12:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, weren't all non-Sartans and non-Patryns considered mensch? --Yodaj007 04:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
The mensch are what the Sartan and Patryn regard as the lesser races: humans, elves and dwarves. --Fogeltje 15:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Books - Article too long?

When I was editting today, I got a notice that the article is over 62 kb. That's not a problem for me, but I read through the descriptions of why this can be an issue for some browsers and slower modems. Should we keep the article as large as it is? Or should the book sections be turned into their own separate articles for each individual book? It's definitely gotten lengthy with this book-based versus character/world-based overhaul! -- Immora 19:54, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I was thinking the same when I found the page today.. not sure what the best way of doing it would be. It might also make the content a little more accessible; perhaps ten screens of unbroken text (on my monitor) can be daunting! -- Mithent 01:12, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Sounds like it's probably an issue if someone else is noticing it. I haven't had time to do my edits of "The Seventh Gate" yet since I got busier with school, but I should be able to think more on this once those are done (unless someone has a good idea before then!) That's quite a lot of text for you to deal with! What resolution are you running? -- Immora 03:49, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I noticed the same thing. I should have some time later this week (if I'm ambitious) and I'll see if I can either pare the article down, or create new pages for each of the books. Beatdown 20:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vague

The article doens't explain very much about how this fantasy world works. For example it says: "Haplo is sent to this world and discovers, much to his alarm, that Alfred has somehow infiltrated the Nexus and stowed away on his ship. Before he can do anything, however, the vessel passes through Death's Gate, and their consciousnesses switch" why? What happens when someone goes through the gate? And why does it have such an omnious name ("DEATH's Gate")? --previously unsigned comment by 82.76.30.78 19:02, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Tytans?

I have started the 3rd book, Fire Sea (I'm at when Haplo, Alfred, the Duke and the Duchess, and Pons have arrived at Necropolisa), and there issomething that still bothers me - Who are the Tytans? What significance do they have in the story? Why are they so bent on finding the Citadel? Why did the Sartan give them B-Grade rune magic? Why did they get really angry when Haplo mentioned "Sartan"? and so on, and so forth.

Perhaps it is because I didn't read carfully and missed some crucial info. (If that is the case, please enlighten me). If not, and more is to be revealed in the later books, please say so, so I know I just have to be patient and keep reading.

Thank You --presiously unsigned comment by 66.146.150.239 22:08, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

As far as I recall, the Tytans were created by the Sartan to operate the Citadel to provide power for the other world. They were giving rune magic for protection and to operate since they have no eyes if I'm correctly. It has been a while since I last read the books, so I might be mistaken. --Fogeltje 15:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep reading, the answer will come - but not in book 3. It may shock and surprise you! Sartan 07:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)