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Contents 1 Al-Qaeda 2 Does this work? 3 stubs 4 Northrop Grumman 5 Zahira College Colombo 6 "You liked my contributions" 7 Barnstar 8 Favour 9 Re: Spell errors (grammar also) 10 Edit summary 11 SABEC 12 Ivar F. Andresen 13 Hmm 14 Ancient Near East warfare taskforce 15 Ahmose I Under Peer Review 16 Kittens always help. 17 Zoids pages 18 "Revert Vandalism" edit summary 19 Broadband problems 20 Thanks! 21 sorry 22 Dont you hate it when? 23 TfD nomination of Template:17th Lancers 24 Don't worry about it. 25 Removing WikiProject tags... 26 image no hoax 27 Request for Osama bin laden transcript references 28 That Guy, From That Show! 29 GIen's RfA: Thank you! 30 Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Projects/hiddenStructure 31 your question 32 ==UBL Intro== 33 3RR 34 Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp 35 blink on your user page 36 My RFA 37 Spelling 38 Brian Posehn fan? 39 Qaedafan? 40 "Welcoming Congregation" restructuring 41 terrorist 42 Please suggest 43 A very long time ago 44 barnstar award 45 November Esperanza Newsletter 46 Have you considered... 47 dirty sanchez 48 Young kitten picture 49 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] Al-Qaeda

I love your sense of humour man :o)

"RV because unwanted intrusion of a penis"

Ha ha ha. Asterion 00:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad that you found the summary amusing.

Lately I've been trying to add some "fun" stuff to my vandalism revert summaries to keep it from getting boring.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-03-24 09:37Z

[edit] Does this work?

Does this work? Sarah crane 15:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

It works, cool!

Hi there and welcome to Wikipedia! —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-03-28 15:38Z

Thank you, Guy! Wow, it's going to take a while to read all that. Thanks for telling me about it! This seems like a really neat place. Sarah crane 16:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stubs

Sorry to bother you, but I have a couple questions, and I don't know who else to ask. How do you know when an article is a stub, and when it's long enough that it's not a stub anymore? Also, I see that some people use specific types of stubs. How do I know what stub to use for an article? Thanks in advance, Sarah crane 21:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

It's not a bother by any means. I spend part of my day maintaining a couple of networks (my main employment, usually remotely) and the rest doing things like I did today, raking the yard and making sure that all of my lawn related equipment is ready to go for Spring. When I'm around, I can usually be found in IRC channel #wikipedia-bootcamp where there are most often people around and awake (we are from all over the planet, time zones vary quite a bit) to help people. Sometimes, it just happens that everyone is gone either sleeping or doing something else, so don't take it personally if perchance no one replies quickly. Commander Keane there on IRC is (for example) one of the most helpful Wikipedians I have been fortunate to meet.

If you don't have an IRC program and do want to connect to live channels instead or in addition to talking on pages like this one, you may want to visit IRC clients as it is very useful for learning about communicating live on IRC or you can ask me questions about it if would like to.

Regarding your question, stubs and links from there as well as the discussion page may help you with information regarding your question. There are many gray areas regarding stubs (and many other things here for various reasons) so it may well be that you won't find a precise definition due to many differing situations. That is one of the Good Things about Wikipedia, it is very often flexible about things.

If the stubs link doesn't have what you are looking for, let me know. Thanks for the question and don't hesitate to ask for more information here or on #wikipedia-bootcamp.

There is another option as well. You can add a section to the end of your user page like == whatever ==, put in your question, and add {{helpme}} at the end. This will signal software that will send a message to IRC live chat (sometimes it is delayed) and someone should get back to you soon.

-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk)

Thanks so much! I'll look through there. Sarah crane 13:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, it's good to be noticed! This place is very friendly. Much more so than many big message boards and stuff. Maybe it's because we're all trying to do something productive together, instead of just chatting. Have a great day! Sarah crane 19:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, now I wish that was true. I've tried to be nice to everybody, but it isn't always returned. You've been very kind to be, and I need a little help, so I thought I'd come to you.

(refactor, I moved this latest comment into a new section here) —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-04-05 21:41Z

[edit] Northrop Grumman

(refactor, I moved this content from this section above) —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-04-05 21:41Z

Well, now I wish that was true. I've tried to be nice to everybody, but it isn't always returned. You've been very kind to be, and I need a little help, so I thought I'd come to you.

I worked very hard on the Northrop Grumman article, and even put it up for peer review. But on Wikipedia:Peer review/Northrop Grumman, a former employee has been harrassing me. I'm not sure what to do. At first I got mad at him, and then I apologized, but he's just gotten worse. He's deleting parts of the article that are critical of the company, and he's accusing me of all kinds of things. Could you look at Wikipedia:Peer review/Northrop Grumman and maybe give your opinion? Thanks a lot. Sarah crane 19:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I added a comment that I hope will calm down the situation without taking a "side" because personal attacks need to be avoided irregardless of what is being discussed so there aren't "sides" to be taken. For your part, I'm glad to see (again!) that you are a reasonable person and will apologize for your part in {whatever}. We need a lot more of that here on wikipedia :)

Be assured that many editors are watching what is happening on that page as well as any talk page discussions between you and the other party and will take appropriate actions to help stop problems.

I will look into the article situation more closely as soon as I can. It will take a bit of time because I am not specifically familiar with it and will be doing some research. Keep in mind that just because something is true does not automatically mean that it needs to be in an article. This is something that puzzled me when I first started editing but once I understood the over-all Big Picture regarding that, I understand the many reasons that this is the way things are done here. That's just a general statement and doesn't reflect your editing in that article because I have not looked at it closely yet.

-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk)

Thanks. I don't need to be right, I just want to be treated with basic respect. Thanks for doing so, it means a lot. Also, I looked at the Peer Review page, and I hadn't realized all that mess is taking up so much space on the page! It's like half the whole peer review page for all articles is taken up by this one spat about NG! I don't want to waste peoples time when they're just looking for articles to improve. Can I take the peer request down? I'm kind of sorry I ever put it up. How do I do that? Sarah crane 23:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I found Wikipedia:Peer review/Request removal policy, and I read it, but it doesn't seem to apply. Maybe the peer review just needs to be reset? I don't know how to do that either though. Sarah crane 23:45, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look into options regarding that. Also, I would strongly suggest that you completely avoid replying to personal conflict type comments and that includes defenses about your character and related issues. Take the day off and relax. Wikipedia isn't going away any time soon.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-04-06 00:08Z

I'm trying to do that. Thanks. I've been writing articles about owls instead. But I have another question: I know I'm not supposed to revert-war, but a user deleted a lot of info I added to Northrop Grumman, and I don't see how any of what he removed was controversial, and so I reverted him. Was this right for me to do? Now he's just removing a link of mine, but it seems like a valid link. What do I do? Do they just win because I follow the rules and they don't? Sarah crane 15:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Let them break the rules and establish a pattern for doing so. In the long run, you will come out on top as long as you keep a clean history for avoiding the same. You will get used to dealing with this but it takes time. (Note: This does not mean that breaking rules is ok for them, but that as you have seen with the Peer Review that people are not punished immediately for every infraction, instead warnings are issued unless the violations are extreme or the person has been in serious trouble previously)

I have had similar problems with a few articles. I have either tried to add information that was completely relevant to an article or remove information that was not. By trying to do it in large chunks I was reverted quite often by groups of people who would not keep an open mind and consider that there are other views. Edit-wars would start which are Very Bad for Wikipedia. Personal attacks about completely made up things happened as well. Those attacks were often just bait to get me to blow up so several people could point at me as a disruptive editor. Instead of taking the bait (most of the time anyway, I'm not perfect) I backed off for a while and came back to the articles to slowly add or remove the information I believed to be important. This was a much easier road because if a person adds for example 3 sentences to an article, they can debate those 3 sentences without much confusion. If paragraphs are added, the talk page can quickly turn into a mess and that makes it less likely to get information added. (Links are considered more like adding paragraphs because they link to large amounts of information)

When I backed off I worked on non-controversial articles and tried to forget about the other articles for a while. What I did keep in mind was that Wikipedia has been here for a while and is not going away, patience is a virtue as well as Rome wasn't built in a day. As long as your information is reasonable, follows Wikipedia guidelines, and you take a slow approach, don't let people bait you, and avoid revert wars, you can accomplish almost whatever it is you want to do.

I personally avoid making more than 2 non-vandalism reverts per article in a 24-hour period. Pushing the edge by doing 3 reverts in a day while permissible is not usually looked upon as a good idea as can be seen at WP:3RR.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-04-06 19:29Z

[edit] Zahira College Colombo

Is not copyvio please read my answer at the talk page regarding this or discuss at the talk page of the article. I am reverting it back to what it was. Mystic 14:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Read the instructions in the copyvio notice. You cannot just keep reverting people to make it go away.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-04-13 14:34

[edit] "You liked my contributions"

Thank you for your compliment! But now you've got my curiosity... I've only edited a few pages, which ones did you notice? Charlie Sheen? GWB? Bob Newman?

Your GWB and Bob Newman edits. I watch quite many pages to keep an eye out for POV pushing and it's nice to see the opposite. We need much more of that sort of editing.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(esperanza) 2006-05-01 15:51

[edit] Barnstar

Thank you very much! —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(esperanza) 2006-05-05 15:07

[edit] Favour

Hi, could you add a voice of reason regarding the claims about AWB to User_talk:William_Allen_Simpson#Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(links)? I just don't know what to say to him anymore. thanks Martin 14:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Spell errors (grammar also)

That Guy, from That Show! wrote

I put a list in your Sandbox as well as the "words" I searched for to generate that list.

Have fun ;) —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(esperanza) 2006-05-05 13:18

Thanks for the list, it'll probably be a couple of weeks before I actually use it, but I'll let you know when I'm done – Gurch 22:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary

If there are barnstars for the most ridiculous edit summaries, I'll gladly award you that :-) Tintin (talk) 03:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Be careful, summaries like that can look like vandalism until you actually see the edit... Morgan Wick 04:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree. But, my opinion is that people have learned to use mischievous summaries to do Bad Things. That said, I will go back to my normal grammar/spelling summary due to it being cooked up on IRC for minor amusement this last weekend.

Regards, —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(esperanza) 2006-05-15 05:06

[edit] SABEC

Thanks for editing the grammar but more thanks to your sense of Humour "Grammarpalooza '06 wikipedia world tour let's party naked!) " XD.Burning phoneix 06:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I am glad that you enjoyed it. It's nice to see that tedious work is noticed even when the user makes (hopefully) humorous edit summaries when doing that work!

Regards, —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(esperanza) 2006-05-15 06:44

[edit] Ivar F. Andresen

Hey, just wanted to say that I like your user name and I like your attitude. You seem to have just the right mix of principle and flexibility that Wikipedia needs. And you caught my typo! Thanks! Eixo 22:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! —-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(esperanza) 2006-05-18 08:32

at Show!|That Guy, From That Show!]] 17:45, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hmm

Hey Chandler. I came here because I liked your name (how did I get here? Editcount AfD, yeah) and your page is very humourous. Keep up the great editting, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 13:24, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. It's always nice to see when our efforts are noticed!

-- That Guy, From That Show! 03:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ancient Near East warfare taskforce

I see you’re a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Egypt. Might you be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Ancient Near East warfare task force, which will include wars of Ancient Egypt such as Battle of Megiddo? See the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Ancient Near East taskforce? Neddyseagoon 15:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ahmose I Under Peer Review

I want to ask for your critical input on the Ahmose I article I and another editor have been contributing to recently. He's place it up for peer review and I would particularly welcome any comments you may have on this article, in particular any holes you may see in it, or areas you think need more material. I don't think we are aiming for Featured Article status just yet, but we're at the point were any useful criticism from someone with more than a passing interest in the subject would be appreciated.

Cheers! Captmondo 15:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kittens always help.

Alright, I felt funny hijiacking a talk page to say as much, but that kitten is beyond adorable. Nothing like a newborn kitten to instantly reduce the wiki-stress. Thanks for sharing. ^_^ -- (Lee)Bailey^(talk) 06:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zoids pages

American english is great and its what i use, but the Zoids pages are written in Commonwealth English because Saberwyn is from Australia...sry to say u kinda wasted ur time there. I guess I'll leave the changes...except the ones that break links.-Giant89 00:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll revert back and fix other errors only. Thanks for the note.

Best regards, -- That Guy, From That Show! 00:59, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem dude. I want to thank you for taking an interest in the article. I have had a hard with the commonwealth english in the past, but its really a waste trying to change things. Hope to see your Zoid's edits in the future.-Giant89 03:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Revert Vandalism" edit summary

You reverted an edit with the edit summary "JS: Reverted vandalism by 81.178.246.85 to last version by Stevertigo. Please do not compromise the integrity of pages." That seems like a template-type message, so maybe it wasn't really what you meant to say in this case.
But if it was, what made you think that was vandalism? All this person did was add a {POV} tag, presumably because he thought it needed to be made more neutral. He/she should have provided an explanation, but just adding a tag without explanation doesn't usually constitute vandalism--a deliberate attempt to reduce the quality of the encyclopedia.
So I'm just noting here that it's important to be careful about demarcating what's really vandalism and what's just bad or disagreeable edits. --Mr. Billion 13:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it was an honest mistake and not as may otherwise seem. I had linked another users rollback script and the programming for it evidentially recently changed. The script is here and I had no idea that it had been changed in such a way. You can look at my javascript and see that I updated it August 1st and the link above shows that the linked javascript changed later.

I'll get the old copy and hard code it in my monobook javascript. Thanks for letting me know about the change.

-- That Guy, From That Show! 05:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broadband problems

Due to problems with my broadband access at home I am mostly inactive temporarily

[edit] Thanks!

Glad you liked my user page essay! — Catherine\^talk 21:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sorry

[edit] Dont you hate it when?

Does it seem just a bit unfair to leave this message with me, but not to leave a message with the other editor in question?

• You have made many useful contributions to wikipedia. Please re-focus on that and not on a personal issue with another editor.

Best Regards, -- That Guy, From That Show! 05:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate the suggestion, but I would have felt more appreciative if you left the other editor a message as well. Leaving one solely with me seems rather biased. --Zaphnathpaaneah 14:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it was biased...but in a positive way. Though I may not agree with all of your views I do respect your contributions to Wikipedia and would hate to see you discouraged by Deeceevoice's recent actions. The message wasn't a warning, I was hoping to stop the back-and-forth with the other editor.

Looking at it again, I realize that I could have worded it much, much better.

My posting to Deeceevoice's talk page would accomplish nothing positive. And, most likely she would see it as a provocation due to the fact that she's in the middle of one of her periodic rampages.

Sorry for any misunderstanding, -- That Guy, From That Show! 14:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:17th Lancers

Template:17th Lancers has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.. Because you were in the history, I wanted to pass this along. — MrDolomite | Talk 01:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Don't worry about it.

It is not DeeCeeVoice personally that upsets me. It's the perspective she reperesents, just like EditingOprah. The two of them, to me, are the classical 80s 'negro' stereotypes. The black attitudinal female and the dimwitted black male that never left the inner city. Never do they step back and let other black perspectives contribute without them trying to assert their dominion. "We are the real black, you all must get our permission to speak" is how they come across. I find them more aggrivating than the whites because they act like white racists. Same centralized mentality. Same "American version is always right first" perspective. Its their perspectives that have caused me to see that this forum, this Wikipedia will not be effective for Black people until more black people participate. For now, maybe a dozen or so really do on issues that need it. I see the contributions elsewhere by others, but that's just it. They do a good job, they make their points, and I need not open my mouth. But here, these two, they create more damage than good. I don't want to have anything to do with any article they are involved in. --Zaphnathpaaneah 06:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removing WikiProject tags...

Please don't do this, as it breaks the assessment system in very obvious ways. (I entirely agree with the comment next to that huge FBI tag, incidentally; but that's an issue to bludgeon that particular project over.) Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 06:05, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, that was a mistake. I intended on removing one, not all.

As a matter of fact, I'm a member of that particular project, which makes this doubly embarrassing.

Regards, -- That Guy, From That Show! 03:31, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok; no problem then. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 04:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] image no hoax

do your own research before slamming the things that you do not understand.

The image you uploaded was a hoax. You admitted this on the talk page for it [1].

-- That Guy, From That Show! 18:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Osama bin laden transcript references

Please add links to sources below, thanks in advance, -- That Guy, From That Show! 02:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] That Guy, From That Show!

Hey, That Guy, From That Show!, are you That Guy, From That Show?
Whiskey Rebellion 04:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GIen's RfA: Thank you!

That Guy, From That Show! for your Support! II feel truly humbled & honored by your support in my RfA, which closed at 90 / 5 / 0. Thank you! If you need me for anything, just say the word. For now however, just like Mr Potter here: My mop & I shall thwart all evil :) IThank you once again my friend. GIen

PS: YES YOU'RE RIGHT HARRY POTTER USES A BROOM! (BUT GOOD MOPS ARE HARD TO FIND!!)

Thanks JzG! Look forward to working with you :) - GIen 05:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Projects/hiddenStructure

What was/is this? Rich Farmbrough 23:28 27 August 2006 (GMT).

IIRC, someone requested that I do a search of the entire en.wikipedia datadump for templates that included something specific that needed to be fixed. I'm sure that project is long finished.

(Usually I make notes when I create lists like that)

-- That Guy, From That Show! 03:24, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your question

I saw your question from a few minutes ago on #WM-tech.

Perhaps the popups could be fixed instead, to check the page, an see if the tab says "watch" or "unwatch"?

Just a thought.

--Connel MacKenzie - wikt 05:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll look into that.

-- That Guy, From That Show! 05:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ==UBL Intro==

Hi TGFTS, I just wanted to drop a note letting you know that it is not my intention to edit war with you over the intro. I really don't think that statement belongs in the there and, as I respect your edits and suggestions, I'm hoping we can find some common ground ( perhaps adding further explanation and putting it somewhere else within the article?). Frankly, I think having that sentence in the intro is unencyclopedic and misleading. Beyond that I doubt its veracity ( but besides all that I Love It!). Levi P. 05:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

This issue has been discussed in talk for several years. I do not proclaim that OBL is innocent, but the truth is that OBL is not publicly officially wanted for the 9/11 attacks. This is about Wikipedia guidelines, not about beliefs. See this diff for more information.

I'm not concerned with whether you think he is innocent or not; I'm concerned that the assertions contained within that sentence be sourced and put in the appropriate section within the article. Levi P. 18:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I like your rewrite of that part here. It is more precise and I support that change.

Good work, -- That Guy, From That Show! 03:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad we were able to come to a compromise that, I think, improved the article. Hopefully we can work together in the future on other issues dealing with 9/11, especially since so many of the disputes seem needlessly contentious. Cheers Levi P. 03:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC) P.S.- Oh, I did get a little "cranky". I didn't really mean to direct that at you, it was more directed toward Pedant and his sarcastic shouting. Levi P.

I'm pleased as well, there appears to be a consensus about the introduction. It took 5 years to accomplish that and hopefully we can all work well together and get the rest of the article in shape in time so it will be included on the Wikipedia CD.

-- That Guy, From That Show! 04:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. PS: I don't mean to use such a harsh template, but you did after all violate WP:3RR Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 08:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the 3RR, it was my first. I honestly didn't realize that I had reverted 3 times in 23 hours and 50 minutes. Usually I try to stick with 1RR.

Again, apologies, -- That Guy, From That Show! 08:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which was successful with a an overwhelmingly flattering and deeply humbling total of 138/2/2 (putting me #10 on the RfA WP:100). I guess infinite monkey theorem has been officially proven. Chimps really can get somewhere on Wikipedia. With new buttons come great responsibility, and I'll try my best to live up to your expectations. If you need assistance with something, don't hesitate to swing by my talk page or email me (trust me, I do respond :)). The same goes for any complaints or comments in regard to my administrative actions. Remember, I'm here for you. (Thanks go to Blnguyen for the incredible photo to the right.) alphaChimp laudare 01:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] blink on your user page

please do not use blink tags.

erm... -- That Guy, From That Show! 07:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Whoa! It's... that guy! From... that show! Anyways, thank you for voting on my RFA, which passed 95 to 1. As an admin, I hope I can live up to the standard, and be a good administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. —this is messedrocker (talk) 08:54, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

I noticed your recent spelling corrections on Globular clusters. FYI, modelling is correct spelling in some English speaking countries (eg England). Normally people don't change between different spellings from different regions. Stephen B Streater 20:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware that word had a different spelling. (I had ignored all of the common ones like 'centre', so this was a mistake)

Regards, -- That Guy, From That Show! 20:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I've learned a few new spelling variations here too. Stephen B Streater 21:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Posehn fan?

I was just curious if your name was a tribute to Brian Posehn.

[edit] Qaedafan?

Why are you reverting my changes to Osama bin Laden? Do you not consider that man a terrorist? Do you support the murder of innocent people? Does the prospect of sensory deprivation appeal to you :-) ? Please don't push pro-Islamofascist propaganda. Thanks. Cerebral Warrior 16:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, it isn't about beliefs. Here, we should to follow policy and guidelines.

Also, avoid Ad hominem attacks, thanks.

-- That Guy 12:45, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Welcoming Congregation" restructuring

Please see my comment on reorganization of the "Welcoming Congregation" topic (replying there). Thanks! --Haruo 07:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] terrorist

Could you pop by the RfC at Talk:Al-Qaeda#Request_for_Comment:_Use_of_the_term_terrorist and give your opinion? I'll probably move the whole discussion to wp:wta soon. yandman 07:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... I see you've already had an encounter with one of the editors in question (two posts above). I'm trying to get him to understand that calling others traitors or "Qaedafans" is a personal attack. yandman 07:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I doubt that you will convince him. His "arguments" avoid addressing what is being discussed and he tends to attack the person instead.

Since his primary tactic involves using loaded words to attack/describe someone instead of dealing with the issue in debate, convincing him to not use that same tactic in articles is not likely.

That said, many other editors, new and old, will benefit from a(nother) discussion about Word To Avoid so I'll drop in.

-- That Guy, From That Show! 14:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, ps: could you have a look at his userboxes and tell me what you think of them? I've suggested he remove them on his talk page, but I doubt he'll listen... yandman 14:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please suggest

Hi, May I know if the User page User:Cerebral_Warrior violates any wikipedia rules. Please check all of his user boxes contents. I want to ask from you before posting on ANI. --- ابراهيم 14:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

He's playing and will quickly get bored without food (IMHO) -- That Guy, From That Show! 09:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Well you responce is not very clear to me. But I think you meant that he is not violating any policy? For example saying things like "This user believes that many parts of the Koran encourage violence." --- ابراهيم 09:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Read this. He's going against guidelines, but not violating policy. There's no strict policy about being a complete ignoramus. If you go to his talk page, you'll see that we eventually agreed on letting him give his silly views as long as he kept the warning that says the opinions are his own. If you see him adding racist material to articles, that's a different matter. yandman 09:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I should have defined 'playing' better as Yandman has thankfully done.

-- That Guy, From That Show! 09:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Now got it. -- ابراهيم 09:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thatguy, are you american, or have you ever lived there? Reading CW's page, I had a look at who that Ann Coulter is. Wow. Then I found a link to an "O'Reilly" guy and ended up reading the entire article on Fox News. Again, wow. And don't get me started on their election campaigns... Are all their pundits so full of bile, or are we just seeing the dark side of the moon? I mean, in England there's the Sun (from the same guy as Fox), but no-one takes that seriously (the topless women on page 3 don't help), and even they're not half as virulent. yandman 10:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm a USA citizen, and yes, in my and many others view media has become that bad. Unfortunately, most of the mainstream media is similar to the SUN over there now. (I am very familiar with the garbage that pours out of the SUN). This is not the 'dark side of the sun', it is pouring out of TV sets 24 hours a day and it is most often taken as fact due to media here rarely saying 'by the way, we were wrong the other day'. That is a very rare occurrence excepting some newspaper organizations.

Luckily, my grandmother taught me about Critical Thinking starting ~8-years-old of age and I have tried my best to constantly evaluate everything I see and/or read since that time. RIP Grandma, everyone said that you were nuts (for example) after instructing me to read different newspapers from different places each day instead of just relying on one...

Sadly, lately our comedy news has most insightful and informative information available. (Some examples: The Daily Show and The Colbert Report).

An example of how Badly Things Have Gone Wrong with media here in the USA (view video). Another you might find interesting is the Jeremy Glick (author) article.

-- That Guy, From That Show! 10:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

"lately our comedy news has most insightful and informative information available". While sad, I believe this is true everywhere. In Britain, Private Eye is by far the most incisive weekly, and in France (a country whose written press I hold in the highest esteem) "Les Guignols" is the only televised news of any use. Anyway, at least you have the New York Times. It was interesting to see that it is criticised for being too liberal: here the general opinion is that it is very good, if a little right wing... yandman 10:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

We have 500+ channels available here, yet somehow (not unsurprisingly) we we can't view French, Arabic, and other (besides BBC, which is sent to the middle of upper channel non-main-where-news-channels-are-normally-listed purgatory) 'foreign' news sources.

Technology and freedom of press indeed...

/love my country's principals, not very happy with the media

-- That Guy, From That Show! 11:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

What a disturbing video. Maybe we should donate a few copies of Wp:npov#POV_forks to CNN... And what's up with the 2 ad-breaks in 13 minutes? yandman 17:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A very long time ago

• I suggest to expand previous dates like 11th millenium BC because Upper Paleolith is event but not a timeline. Igor Skoglund

I'm not sure what you mean precisely, Upper Paleolithic covers time over a period of 30,000 years.

Still, I'd be glad to help expand dates/events. Please let me know more.

Thanks (again) for your contributions to Wikipedia -- That Guy, From That Show! 09:36, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• It is long period. I suggest more detailed timeline. Igor Skoglund.

[edit] barnstar award

		The Original Barnstar
		This is for you extensive work with the Osama Bin Laden. I really was quite impressed. Congrats and keep up the good work! Sharkface217 04:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much!

-- That Guy, From That Show! 18:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Have you considered...

applying for your very own Wikimop? It really is No Big Deal... Guy 22:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Not at this time. And, I should say (again!), thanks for your contributions to the Wikipedia project. I'm a good judge of character (for the most part) and you haven't disappointed me at all.

Regards, -- That Guy, From That Show! 07:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] dirty sanchez

way to take one for the team ;) JoeSmack ^Talk(p-review!) 07:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Heh, I do feel 'dirty' still.

-- That Guy, From That Show! 07:39, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Young kitten picture

I've recently nominated Image:Youngkitten.JPG, an image you have created, for FPC. See the nomination subpage here. Michaelas10 (Talk) 18:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can