Template talk:Terrorism
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Needs work to de-bias this from an West-centric POV, but altogether a fairly nice job. Stevertigo 03:31, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Deleted the regional section: for three reasons: 1. Its a "global war on terror" (to quote certain people) and thus, how is terrorism, or these particular items "regional"? The fact that the US has its hand up the butt of most of the middle east makes it a kind of an oxymoron to call these things regional. 2. This is supported by the inclusion of September 11 terrorist attacks, which werent "regional" by any stretch. 3. And Palestinian terrorism, aside from the fact that its sort of disingenuous to separate it from Arab terrorism or anti-US terrorism, alongside of the 911 event it seems suspiciously like the work of someone with only two kinds of terrorism on their mind. Granted, these two links could go in the other category, but what rule governs the exceptional treatment of these two particular items? They are big, granted, but the categories must somewaht resemble the reality of a larger world with very differing pov (according to the polls, reportedly). Stevertigo 03:40, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Excellent points. Kingturtle 10:05, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Secennionist terrorism
Why is Secennionist Terrerism missing? Its very major: IRA, ETA, Kashmir, Kurdistan, Tajikistan, Sri Lanka, ...? Gerritholl aka Topjaklont | Talk 19:40, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Making this Template NPOV
This discussion was copied from Wikipedia:Templates for deletion.
- I removed FBI Most wanted and U.S. State Dept. from the template. Hopefully now it is not as unbalanced. Josh 19:54, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Josh - instead of removing them, should we have a category for "formal classifications" or something? If we have articles about other countries' lists, let's link there, if not, that's still not a US-centric problem with the template, but with the content in general. (Comment by Mikeage.)
- That might work, although I'm not sure that we have articles about other countries' lists, and I do not know enough about the topic to write any. I'm sure most countries do have some sort of list. Also, one thing that I noticed lacking was that there is no list from Interpol [1] or other international organizations. Josh 22:18, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
- UK list: Terrorism Act 2000. I agree we should expand this template rather than shorten it. --ChrisRuvolo 07:30, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- That might work, although I'm not sure that we have articles about other countries' lists, and I do not know enough about the topic to write any. I'm sure most countries do have some sort of list. Also, one thing that I noticed lacking was that there is no list from Interpol [1] or other international organizations. Josh 22:18, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Josh - instead of removing them, should we have a category for "formal classifications" or something? If we have articles about other countries' lists, let's link there, if not, that's still not a US-centric problem with the template, but with the content in general. (Comment by Mikeage.)
[edit] Layout
- User:Jiang suggested that we make this template into a footer. What does everyone else think? Josh 03:05, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] TFD vote results
(copied from Wikipedia:Templates for deletion -- Netoholic @ 08:16, 2004 Dec 20 (UTC))
[edit] Template:Terrorism
- bizarre list of terrorist-related articles entirely from the point of view of the US. - Xed 18:02, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I fail to see any POV here. Grue 19:54, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep - If you dispute certain items, take it to the talk page. This series box is quite well done. -- Netoholic @ 21:14, 2004 Dec 1 (UTC)
- Keep, though I suggest if you find some things objectionable you edit to make the article more NPOV. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:00, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep Is your prob with the contents of the article (which do need improving) or with the way they are linked up with the template - in which case how else would you link them? --JK the unwise 10:10, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep You can edit the template yourself, you know. Ashibaka tlk 13:26, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep US-centric? I see no POV issue here. The list looks very good to me. Mikeage 13:36, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep Propose an alternative template if deletion is due. __earth 10:30, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep Even if it's too US-centric, terrorism is a VERY valid issue. --Doctorcherokee 18:39, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I removed FBI Most wanted and U.S. State Dept. from the template. Hopefully now it is not as unbalanced. Josh 19:54, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Josh - instead of removing them, should we have a category for "formal classifications" or something? If we have articles about other countries' lists, let's link there, if not, that's still not a US-centric problem with the template, but with the content in general. (Comment by Mikeage.)
- That might work, although I'm not sure that we have articles about other countries' lists, and I do not know enough about the topic to write any. I'm sure most countries do have some sort of list. Also, one thing that I noticed lacking was that there is no list from Interpol [2] or other international organizations. Josh 22:18, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
- By the way, if you would like to discuss this further, please use the template's talk page. I have copied this discussion to there. Josh 02:14, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
- Josh - instead of removing them, should we have a category for "formal classifications" or something? If we have articles about other countries' lists, let's link there, if not, that's still not a US-centric problem with the template, but with the content in general. (Comment by Mikeage.)
- Comment: This has no chronological order and should really be a footer instead. --Jiang 07:18, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Ordering
I was wondering if there is any specific reason for the way the "types" and "tactics" of terrorism are ordered. gren
[edit] Choice of the color scheme
I am wondering why this particular color scheme was chosen, exactly the same as in Template:Israelis and Template:Jew. I guess we ran out of colors... Please change/provide suggestions for a better colors before I do it myself. How does off-red/brownish sound? ←Humus sapiens←ну? 22:29, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- I agree, the colors are vile. Why do we need special colors? Why not just use something that blends in with the rest of WP? We shouldn't be drawing attention to the infobox at the expense of the article. --Lee Hunter 00:18, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- I dislike these ostentatious vertical "series" templates (although this one is not the worst...at least it doesn't have a logo). If we have to endure them, it should be a rule that they can only be placed on pages they directly link to. Mirror Vax 10:56, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- I also agree that we shouldn't use special colours for this template;
class="wikitable"class="toccolours"(wikitable doesn't look very nice), as shown to the left, should work fine as well. (It also has the benefit of making the source code much simpler.) Ingoolemo talk 00:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)- Please consider my old comment at the top of this section withdrawn. The new colors are fine with me. ←Humus sapiens ну? 01:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- I also agree that we shouldn't use special colours for this template;
- I dislike these ostentatious vertical "series" templates (although this one is not the worst...at least it doesn't have a logo). If we have to endure them, it should be a rule that they can only be placed on pages they directly link to. Mirror Vax 10:56, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Categories
Can we add categories to the template? AndrewRT 00:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] there should be a domestic terrorism link on this template and
probly a comprehensive article about what that is. CrackityKzz 16:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] What about the hijackings?
In the history section plane hijackings seem to be missing. I believe one of the first was done in Stockholm by Ustasha and there were numerous other ones by PLO.
